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Wednesday, August 2, 2023
Tougher than a Swedish Viking
OIC resolution? What OIC resolution?! Credit: Cruzados
I wonder what the OIC would have said about this guy...
I stand corrected, after reading the entire Wiki article and side links, Mahdi and (Muslim) Isa/Jesus are on the same side, I think they're battling Gog and Magog. Could be Vikings too! Mahdi is losing the battle and Isa/Jesus comes down to sit on a minaret wearing saffron robes and vanquishes the Dajjal (the real bad guy false messiah!) The universe will collapse, and all souls go to Judgement Day for evaluation...it's all quite confusing depending on which Imam you are following...
Yes, and in another version (the Sunni?), Jesus appears earlier, establishes a millennial kingdom on Earth (but it only lasts for 40 years in this version), kills all pigs in Jerusalem, and leads the Friday prayer of the Muslims. Then, he dies. Presumably, the Mahdi (or perhaps just Allah alone) will intervene at some later point, when Gog and Magog appears, und so weiter. I´m with JMG on this one: the only thing we can be sure of when it comes to religion is that apocalyptic prophecies are always wrong - and creates a lot of mischief in the meantime! My addition would be that secular revolutions always happen, and sometimes they are even necessary, but that´s really the flow of normal human history. The end times scenario is something else again, and frankly nuts. In our times, of course, the millennial meme often inspires secular revolutions, not a good thing if you ask me...
"We need to make a revolution to restore rights we used to have. Or gain rights we should have" - good. "We need to make a revolution to create Utopia and kill all unbelievers in the process (or was it the other way around)" - not so good.
We need a change of mind, not exactly metanoia in the repentant sense; an expansion of inclusive awareness that underscores revolution #1 - certainly a mutual economic benefit to all has yet to be developed, human nature being what it is. Naivete aside, in the moment I engage with 'what is' in this moment, I can issue justice, mercy and perhaps charity. It's one on one in a personal way. Revolution #2 obviously incurs repression, exclusion and death
I surmise at the "end of times" Jesus and the Mahdi will duke it out in the Battle Extraordinaire!
ReplyDeleteOr even the Muslim Jesus!
ReplyDeleteI stand corrected, after reading the entire Wiki article and side links, Mahdi and (Muslim) Isa/Jesus are on the same side, I think they're battling Gog and Magog. Could be Vikings too!
DeleteMahdi is losing the battle and Isa/Jesus comes down to sit on a minaret wearing saffron robes and vanquishes the Dajjal (the real bad guy false messiah!) The universe will collapse, and all souls go to Judgement Day for evaluation...it's all quite confusing depending on which Imam you are following...
Yes, and in another version (the Sunni?), Jesus appears earlier, establishes a millennial kingdom on Earth (but it only lasts for 40 years in this version), kills all pigs in Jerusalem, and leads the Friday prayer of the Muslims. Then, he dies. Presumably, the Mahdi (or perhaps just Allah alone) will intervene at some later point, when Gog and Magog appears, und so weiter. I´m with JMG on this one: the only thing we can be sure of when it comes to religion is that apocalyptic prophecies are always wrong - and creates a lot of mischief in the meantime! My addition would be that secular revolutions always happen, and sometimes they are even necessary, but that´s really the flow of normal human history. The end times scenario is something else again, and frankly nuts. In our times, of course, the millennial meme often inspires secular revolutions, not a good thing if you ask me...
ReplyDelete"We need to make a revolution to restore rights we used to have. Or gain rights we should have" - good. "We need to make a revolution to create Utopia and kill all unbelievers in the process (or was it the other way around)" - not so good.
ReplyDeleteWe need a change of mind, not exactly metanoia in the repentant sense; an expansion of inclusive awareness that underscores revolution #1 - certainly a mutual economic benefit to all has yet to be developed, human nature being what it is. Naivete aside, in the moment I engage with 'what is' in this moment, I can issue justice, mercy and perhaps charity. It's one on one in a personal way. Revolution #2 obviously incurs repression, exclusion and death
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