Showing posts with label POTUS race 2024. Show all posts
Showing posts with label POTUS race 2024. Show all posts

Friday, June 27, 2025

An uncomfortable truth

 


Tonight´s AI essay. 

Are there any figures indicating how many workers (or working class voters) voted for Donald Trump in the 2016, 2020 and 2024 US presidential elections?

Yes, although exact numbers can be hard to pinpoint, there are several reliable estimates and studies indicating how many working-class or blue-collar voters supported Donald Trump in the 2016, 2020, and 2024 U.S. presidential elections. The data comes from exit polls, academic studies, and voter file analyses, with "working class" often defined as voters without a four-year college degree or by occupation/income.


🔹 2016 Election

Definition Used: Voters without a college degree (often used as a proxy for working class)

  • Trump won 67% of white non-college voters, according to CNN exit polls.

  • He won about 52% of all voters without a college degree.

  • Among union households, Trump performed surprisingly well: 43% of union households voted for Trump, compared to 51% for Clinton.

  • In Rust Belt states (e.g., Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio), white working-class voters were critical to Trump's narrow victories.

Estimate: About 40–45% of the total working-class vote nationwide went to Trump, with white working-class support reaching nearly 2/3.


🔹 2020 Election

  • Trump maintained strong support among white working-class voters, winning 64% of them (Pew Research, validated voter study).

  • His performance among non-white working-class voters improved slightly from 2016, especially among Latino men.

  • Among all voters without a four-year degree, Trump won about 54% (vs. Biden’s 44%).

Estimate: Trump received a slight majority (54%) of working-class votes, especially from white and rural voters. Biden did better with union households than Clinton had.


🔹 2024 Election (Early Data/Estimates)

Because full data is still being collected and analyzed, most numbers come from early exit polls and academic projections.

  • Trump again won a majority of working-class voters (especially non-college whites).

  • According to early Edison exit polls:

    • Trump won 65–70% of white non-college voters.

    • He made further inroads with working-class Latinos and some Black voters, especially men.

  • In states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, working-class turnout was again a key battleground.

Preliminary Estimate: Trump won 55–58% of working-class voters in 2024, showing continued dominance with white working-class voters and modest gains with others.


🧠 Notes on Definitions

  • "Working class" is not a perfect category; some studies use:

    • Educational attainment (no college degree),

    • Occupation (manual labor, service, manufacturing),

    • Income levels (lower-middle to middle income),

    • Or union membership (for organized labor subset).

  • Trump’s rhetoric on trade, immigration, and “America First” themes consistently appealed to parts of the working class who felt economically left behind or culturally alienated.


📊 Summary Table

Election YearWorking-Class Voter Support for TrumpKey Details
2016~45% overall; ~67% white non-collegeHigh swing in Rust Belt; anti-globalization message resonated
2020~54% overall; ~64% white non-collegeStrong retention; slight gains among working-class Latinos
2024~55–58% overall (est.)Strong white working-class base; modest minority gains

If you'd like, I can provide state-by-state breakdowns or focus on union households or non-white working-class voters as subgroups.

There were claims in 2020 (based on opinion polls before the elections) that Trump´s support among White workers were going down. But it seems that he gained more such voters in the elections?

You're absolutely right to point out the discrepancy. In the run-up to the 2020 election, many pre-election opinion polls suggested that Donald Trump was losing support among white working-class voters, particularly in key swing states. However, post-election data from validated voter studies and exit polls tell a different story: Trump actually held onto — and in some cases modestly increased — his support among white working-class voters compared to 2016.

Here’s what happened in more detail:


🔄 Expectations vs Reality: White Working-Class Vote in 2020

🔹 What the Polls Predicted (Pre-Election 2020):

  • Several major polls (e.g. Quinnipiac, NYT/Siena, Pew) suggested erosion in Trump’s support among:

    • White non-college voters, especially women.

    • Union households in Rust Belt states.

  • The narrative was that Biden was doing better with working-class whites than Clinton had.

  • Pollsters cited Trump's perceived mismanagement of COVID, economic uncertainty, and fatigue among moderate voters.

➤ For example, a September 2020 Monmouth poll had Trump trailing among white working-class voters in Wisconsin, which turned out to be incorrect.


🔹 What Actually Happened (Post-Election 2020):

According to Pew Research Center's validated voter study and Edison exit polls:

  • White working-class voters backed Trump by ~64%, very close to his 2016 margin.

  • Trump’s support held steady or even improved in rural areas, and he deepened margins in parts of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Iowa.

  • Biden improved slightly among white working-class women, but not nearly enough to offset Trump’s dominance with men in that group.

🔍 Pew’s 2020 report: Among white voters without a four-year degree:

  • Trump: 64%

  • Biden: 35%

This was about the same as 2016 (when Trump got 67% and Clinton 28% among that group per CNN exit polls).


🧠 Why Were the Polls Wrong?

Several reasons explain the mismatch:

  1. Polling error among non-college whites:

    • Many pollsters underrepresented or misweighted this group.

    • Some white working-class voters are less likely to respond to polls, skewing samples.

  2. Social desirability bias:

    • Some respondents may not have admitted voting for Trump in polls, especially after media criticism of his presidency.

  3. Turnout models were off:

    • Many polls underestimated the high turnout among rural and working-class whites, especially in red counties.

  4. Late shifts:

    • Trump’s strong messaging on reopening the economy and culture war themes galvanized working-class support in the final weeks.


🧾 Summary

FactorPolls (Pre-2020)Actual Result
White working-class supportPredicted to drop (esp. women)Stayed stable or rose slightly
Swing state working classBiden projected to gain groundTrump retained or expanded
TurnoutExpected moderate turnout in rural areasHigh turnout among Trump base

🧭 Takeaway

Trump's core strength among white working-class voters — especially men, rural voters, and those in the Midwest — remained very strong in 2020, despite polls suggesting weakening support. This group has been a pillar of his electoral coalition, and pollsters have struggled to capture their preferences accurately.

If you're interested, I can also show county-level shifts in working-class regions between 2016 and 2020.

Did more workers vote for Trump in 2016, 2020 and 2024 than for previous Republican presidential candidates?

Yes — more workers voted for Donald Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024 than for previous Republican presidential candidates, both in absolute numbers and in terms of share of the working-class vote, especially among white, non-college-educated voters.

Here’s a breakdown:


🔹 1. Trump vs. Past GOP Candidates (Absolute Numbers)

Because overall voter turnout has been increasing, it's important to look at both raw vote totals and percentage share of working-class voters.

🗳 Estimated Working-Class Votes for GOP Candidates:

YearGOP CandidateWorking-Class Vote (Est.)Notes
2008John McCain~33–35 millionObama won white working class narrowly in some states
2012Mitt Romney~35–38 millionRomney won 59% of white working class
2016Donald Trump~40–45 millionTrump won 67% of white non-college voters
2020Donald Trump~45–50 millionStrong retention + gains among Latino workers
2024Donald Trump~47–52 million (est.)Continued strength among white workers, growing appeal among others

🔍 These are estimates using:

  • Exit polls

  • Census voter turnout reports

  • Pew and ANES data


🔹 2. Share of the Working-Class Vote

Trump not only got more working-class votes in total due to higher turnout, but also outperformed prior Republicans in percentage terms, especially with:

  • White working-class voters (non-college)

  • Rural and small-town voters

  • Some segments of working-class Latinos and Black men (modest but measurable gains)

📊 White Working-Class Vote (No 4-Year Degree):

YearGOP Share of White Working-Class Vote
2008~58% (McCain)
2012~59% (Romney)
201667% (Trump)
202064% (Trump)
2024~65–70% (Trump) (exit poll est.)

Trump’s 2016 performance was the highest for Republicans in modern history, particularly in the Midwest and Rust Belt.


🔹 3. Why Did More Workers Support Trump Than Past Republicans?

Key Factors:

  • Anti-elite, anti-globalization rhetoric resonated with economically dislocated voters.

  • Trade policy, tariffs, and immigration restrictionism were seen as pro-worker (especially in manufacturing).

  • Cultural messaging on patriotism, religion, guns, and traditional values appealed to white working-class voters.

  • Trump de-emphasized traditional GOP orthodoxy (like entitlement reform) that had alienated many working people under Bush and Romney.

  • He also made gains among non-white working-class voters (Latino men, some Black working-class voters) by 2020 and more so in 2024.


🧾 Summary

Yes, Trump got more working-class votes (especially white non-college voters) than previous GOP candidates — both in numbers and percentage.

📈 Trump expanded the Republican base among workers in a way not seen since Reagan, particularly in the Midwest, Appalachia, and rural areas.

🔄 His support shifted the class balance of the Republican coalition — from a party of business and suburbs to one more dominated by working-class, rural, and non-college voters.


If you're interested, I can also provide comparisons between Trump and Reagan among working-class voters — or explore how union households shifted over the years.

Yes, how did union household shift between pre-Trump Republican candidates and Trump?

Great question. The union household vote has long been a stronghold of the Democratic Party, but Donald Trump made notable inroads, especially compared to earlier Republican candidates. Let’s break down how union household support shifted from pre-Trump Republicans (like McCain and Romney) to Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024.


🔹 What Is the “Union Household Vote”?

In exit polls, a union household is defined as any household where someone (voter or family member) belongs to a labor union. This includes both public- and private-sector unions.

Historically:

  • Democrats won ~60–70% of union households in most elections since FDR.

  • Republicans consistently struggled with this bloc — until Trump.


📊 Union Household Voting Trends (2000–2024)

YearGOP CandidateGOP % of Union HouseholdsDemocrat %Notes
2000George W. Bush37%62% (Gore)Bush improved slightly from 1996
2004George W. Bush40%59% (Kerry)Higher turnout in Midwest helped Dems
2008John McCain40%59% (Obama)Obama strong in union Midwest
2012Mitt Romney40%58% (Obama)No major GOP gains
2016Donald Trump43–44%~51% (Clinton)Biggest GOP share in decades
2020Donald Trump~45%~52% (Biden)Slight improvement again
2024Donald TrumpEst. 46–48%~50% (Biden)Gains among white and private-sector union members

🔄 What Changed with Trump?

🔺 Republican Gains Under Trump:

  • Trump outperformed McCain and Romney by 3–8 points with union households.

  • He flipped working-class union voters in Rust Belt states (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan).

  • His message resonated with older, white, male union members, especially in construction, manufacturing, and energy.

🔻 Democratic Retention:

  • Democrats still won union households overall, largely due to:

    • Public sector unions (teachers, government employees)

    • Racially diverse unions (e.g., SEIU, hospitality workers)

    • Female union members, who leaned more Democratic


🧠 Key Factors in the Shift

✅ Why Trump Gained:

  • Anti-globalization, anti-NAFTA stance

  • Strong emphasis on manufacturing jobs, coal, and energy independence

  • Messaging on illegal immigration and trade protectionism

  • Appeal to cultural conservatism and “anti-elite” identity

🛑 Why Democrats Still Led:

  • Union leadership and organized campaigns favored Democrats

  • Strong support from public-sector and service unions

  • Continued alignment with labor rights, healthcare, and minimum wage


🧾 Summary

Donald Trump broke decades of Republican underperformance among union households, raising GOP support from ~40% under Bush/Romney to 45–48% by 2024.

His gains were strongest among white, male, private-sector union workers in the Midwest and Rust Belt, and they helped flip key states like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

However, Democrats still held the overall union household majority, especially through support from women, minorities, and public-sector unions.


If you want, I can go deeper into specific unions (e.g., Teamsters, UAW, teachers) or provide county-level examples of heavily unionized areas that swung toward Trump.

Thursday, March 13, 2025

So you wish to learn politics?

 


You want votes, kiddo? Give the voters what they want! An innovative proposal from that adorable madman TJ Kirk. 

Doubling down

 


I think it´s obvious that Woke hurt the Democrats in the recent presidential elections. Heck, the Dems themselves say so. Specifically trans-people, hyper-specifically trans-women in women´s sports. 

Yet, it´s precisely this issue that the Dems are now doubling down on?!

There are three possible explanations. One: the Democrats are Satanists. Or crazy. Or both. Two: the Democrat campaign organizations are dominated by a certain kind of Woke activists, who simply won´t back down. Three: the Democrats are funded by somebody who is friendly (or "friendly") to trans-people. Perhaps Big Pharma and Big Shrink? Somebody is making money off the drugs and medical procedures. 

My wild guess is number three. Which explains why the activists (number two) can´t be fired. Number one is *of course* completely impossible. Well, I think!

Wednesday, March 5, 2025

No way back

 


Some hard truths from the old crazie TJ Kirk (The Amazing Atheist). Viewer discretion advised. And yo, TJ, be careful what you wish for! 

Thursday, February 27, 2025

Allegedly

 


Ryan Wesley Routh, who *allegedly* tried to kill Donald Trump at that golf course, is *allegedly* an Iranian asset. Thank god Israel *allegedly* incapacitated the entire Iranian air force last year, so Trump doesn´t non-allegedly have to nuke Qom or something... 

Dark Brandon forever

 

The turkey pardoned by Biden 

Richard Spencer still carrying out "deep entryism" in the Democratic Party. Gotta love the attack on "tech-bro fascism". As opposed to...what? Bromance fascism? 

>>>Senile Biden would have won in 2024. At the very least, he would have performed better than Harris. I don’t even think Kamala was that bad. She genuinely tried to avoid the woke stuff, but was dragged down by it. The assassination attempt also made Trump seem like a “man of Destiny.” Trump’s power is neutralized when he faces off against an old White guy. He has beaten two shrill liberal women.

>>>Don’t blame me. I don’t make the rules. The real scandal is that the Democrats didn’t more vigorously cover up and lie about Biden’s declining mental state. If America descends into civil war and/or tech-bro fascism, don’t blame Joe Biden. Blame George Clooney!

Original tweet

Friday, January 31, 2025

Autism increases

 



The Woke libertarian girl who refused to vote for RFK Jr with the argument that his anti-vaxx stance is really a form of hate against autistic people has gotten herself new eyeglasses. 

Oh. 

Friday, January 10, 2025

Wednesday, January 8, 2025

Sacred trust

 


This is something of a rant, but here we go anyway...

If Trump really is Hitler, why is it a "sacred responsibility" (or whatever) to hand over power to him in an "ordered and peaceful transition"? It´s almost as if the Dems were full of BS when they said that Trump was a fascist. You know, waving the bloody shirt and all that...

True, nobody *really* knows what the Don wants to do (maybe not even himself), but as of now, his administration seems set to become a hybrid between a regular Republican administration and barely controlled chaos. In other words, like - you know - Trump´s first term. Which we all somehow survived. 

That being said, sure, it might be much worse this time. The whole world does seem uncomfortably crazy right now. But what is the liberal alternative to *that*? The hybrid between a regular Democrat administration and barely controlled chaos America got under Biden?

The "fascist" Trump couldn´t stop Biden in 2020-2021, anymore than the "Resistance" could (or even would) stop Trump in 2024-2025. Who´s really in charge over there? Maybe the real question is: When will the autopilot stop working?