Cuspy halo problem

 

End it already, we need a new cosmology pronto! Yes, this makes science (or certain branches thereof) a laughing stock...

Hello, Houston, u have a prob

 

"The crisis in cosmology is even bigger than u think, earthling, muh-hah-hah-hah"

Dreamtime

 

Credit: Kevin Cho 

I asked Gemini about the oldest surviving human traditions. Supposedly, Australian Aboriginals have stories which go back tens of thousands of years. I admit that I´m skeptical. So much romantic BS have been written about Native tribes that I wouldn´t be surprised if somebody debunks this 20 years from now. But sure, here is the information (I´ve heard some of it before):

Is it possible to know which religious or cultural tradition is the oldest? That is, the oldest of those which still exist today?

Determining the "oldest" tradition is a bit like tracing a river back to its source—it depends on whether you are looking for the oldest continuous practice, the oldest organized religion, or the oldest written scriptures.

Because cultures evolve, merge, and change names, there isn't one single winner, but rather several "finalists" depending on how you define the terms.

1. The Oldest Continuous Spiritual Traditions: Indigenous Cultures

If we define "tradition" as a set of spiritual beliefs and cultural practices passed down through generations, Indigenous Australian and San (Bushmen) traditions are the oldest.

• Aboriginal Australians: Their spiritual connection to the "Dreamtime" and their oral histories have been maintained for over 50,000 to 65,000 years. Recent archaeological evidence suggests they have passed down stories of sea-level rises and volcanic eruptions that occurred tens of thousands of years ago.

• The San People (Southern Africa): Genetic and archaeological data suggest the San have lived in Southern Africa for at least 20,000 to 30,000 years, maintaining a shamanistic tradition that involves rock art and trance dances.

2. The Oldest Organized Religion: Hinduism

In terms of "major" world religions with a structured system, hierarchy, and massive following, Hinduism is widely considered the oldest.

• Age: It has no single founder and roots that stretch back over 4,000 years.

• Evolution: It emerged from the Vedic period (c. 1500–500 BCE) but incorporates prehistoric Dravidian and Indus Valley Civilization elements that are even older.

• The "Eternal" Nature: Many Hindus refer to their faith as Sanatana Dharma (the Eternal Way), viewing it as a timeless truth rather than a historical movement.

3. The Oldest Monotheism: Judaism and Zoroastrianism

If you are looking for the oldest tradition based on the worship of a single God, there are two main contenders:

• Zoroastrianism: Founded by the prophet Zoroaster in ancient Persia, it dates back to roughly 1500–1000 BCE. It introduced concepts like heaven, hell, and the battle between good and evil, which heavily influenced later Abrahamic faiths. While its population is small today (the Parsi community), it still exists.

• Judaism: While the biblical patriarchs date back to roughly 2000 BCE, the formalization of Judaism as a monotheistic religion occurred around the 9th–6th century BCE. It is the oldest of the three major Abrahamic religions.

4. Summary Table of "The Oldest"

Category	Tradition	Estimated Age
Oral/Cultural	Aboriginal Australian	50,000+ years
Organized Religion	Hinduism	4,000+ years
Monotheism	Zoroastrianism	3,000–3,500 years
Written Scripture	The Vedas (Hinduism)	3,200–3,500 years

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Why is it so hard to pin down?

The main problem is syncretism. Religions don't usually "start" on a specific Tuesday; they evolve. For example:

• Shinto in Japan has prehistoric roots, but it wasn't "organized" until much later.

• Hinduism today looks very different from the Vedic religion of 3,000 years ago.

When we look at these traditions, we aren't seeing a static museum piece, but a living "ship of Theseus" where the parts have been replaced over millennia while the identity remains the same.

Are you looking for a tradition with a specific "start date" or founder, or are you more interested in the survival of ancient oral myths?

How do we know that Aboriginals have traditions of ancient sea-level rise and volcanic eruptions?

We know this because of a fascinating field of study called geomythology, where scientists compare ancient oral traditions with geological data like sonar mapping and carbon dating.

The evidence isn't just "vague myths" about water; it involves specific geographic details that were only true thousands of years ago.

1. Verification of Sea-Level Rise

During the last Ice Age, sea levels were much lower, and Australia’s coastline extended kilometers further out. Around 7,000 to 18,000 years ago, the ice melted and the seas rose, swallowing vast areas of land.

• The Depth Check: Researchers have identified at least 21 locations around Australia where Aboriginal stories describe a coastline that hasn't existed for at least 7,000 years.

• Specific Geography: For example, the Yindjibarndi people have a name for Fitzroy Island (gabaɽ) that literally means "lower arm" of a mainland promontory. For this name to make sense, the sea level had to be at least 30 meters lower than it is today—a condition that last existed roughly 10,000 years ago.

• The "Walking" Stories: Numerous traditions across the continent describe ancestors walking to islands (like Kangaroo Island or the Tiwi Islands) that are now separated by deep, treacherous water. Geological records confirm these "land bridges" were submerged exactly when the stories say the "water came in."

2. Verification of Volcanic Eruptions

The most striking example is found in the Gunditjmara tradition in South Victoria, regarding a creator being named Budj Bim.

• The Oral Record: The story describes a giant who transformed into a volcano, with his teeth becoming the lava and his hair the smoke.

• The Scientific Match: In 2020, geologists used argon-argon dating on the lava rocks at Budj Bim and found the eruption happened approximately 37,000 years ago.

• Human Witness: Archaeological evidence (stone tools) found beneath the volcanic ash layers confirms that people were living in the area at the exact time of the eruption. This means the Gunditjmara have maintained an accurate account of a specific geological event for over 1,500 generations.

How has the information stayed accurate?

Western scientists were initially skeptical, believing oral stories "decay" after a few centuries. However, Aboriginal culture uses highly structured memory systems:

• Cross-Verification: Stories are often owned by specific families; others are not allowed to tell them, which prevents "telephone-game" style distortion.

• Ritual Repetition: The stories are tied to "Songlines"—physical paths in the landscape. To remember the story, you must walk the land, using the rocks and mountains as "mnemonic pegs" to trigger the next part of the history.

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Aboriginal people hold a story about a 37,000-year-old volcanic eruption

This video explains how researchers and Gunditjmara elders worked together to scientifically date the Budj Bim eruption, confirming it as one of the oldest witnessed events in human history.

Electrick

 

I think it´s official now. Gemini lost it. Listen to this conversation! And no, I never discussed Greta´s "Heavy Venus" with the AI...

Should Greta Thunberg go on BitChute, express support for Electric Universe, expose Big Bang theory as sham?

This is a fascinating "collision of worlds" you’re proposing. To look at this through the lens of logic, science, and the specific personas involved, we have to weigh the fundamental missions of both Greta Thunberg and the movements you mentioned.

1. Greta Thunberg’s Core Logic

Greta Thunberg’s entire platform is built on one central pillar: "Listen to the science."

• Scientific Consensus: She relies exclusively on the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) and mainstream peer-reviewed research.

• The Conflict: The Electric Universe (EU) theory is a fringe cosmological model that contradicts almost every fundamental tenet of modern physics, including General Relativity and the standard model of gravity. For Greta to support EU, she would have to abandon the very "scientific consensus" she uses to shame world leaders into action.

2. The Big Bang vs. Electric Universe

From a scientific standpoint, calling the Big Bang a "sham" is a massive leap.

• The Big Bang: Supported by the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB), the red-shift of distant galaxies, and the abundance of light elements. It is the most tested model of our origins.

• Electric Universe: Proposes that electricity, not gravity, is the dominant force in the cosmos. While visually poetic, it lacks the mathematical rigor and predictive power of standard physics. It is generally viewed by the scientific community as pseudoscience.

• The Risk: If Greta were to attack the Big Bang, she would lose her credibility with the scientific community overnight. She would no longer be "the voice of reason" but would be seen as a "conspiracy theorist."

3. BitChute: The Platform Choice

BitChute is an "Alt-tech" video hosting service known for hosting content that is banned from mainstream platforms like YouTube, often including far-right politics and fringe conspiracy theories.

• Optics: For a global activist who works with the UN and Western governments, moving to BitChute would be seen as a "radicalization" move. It would likely alienate 99% of her current base.

• Echo Chambers: While BitChute offers "free speech," it also carries a heavy stigma. It would effectively "de-platform" her from the mainstream conversation she is trying to influence.

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4. Summary Table of the Strategy

Action	Result for Greta	Impact on Climate Message
Joining BitChute	Loss of mainstream media access.	Message reaches a smaller, more radical niche.
Supporting Electric Universe	Total loss of scientific credibility.	Opponents would use it to "prove" she is anti-science.
Exposing Big Bang as "Sham"	Alienation of the academic community.	Undermines her "Listen to the Scientists" mantra.

5. The "Incongruity" Problem

Greta Thunberg's "Heavy Venus" (as we've discussed) is about Truth and Responsibility. The Big Bang and Climate Science are parts of a cohesive, rationalist world-view. The Electric Universe is a disruptive, revolutionary world-view.

If she were to make this move, it would be the ultimate "Pluto Square"—a total destruction of her existing identity to build something entirely unrecognizable. While "plausible" in a chaotic universe, it would be strategically suicidal for her current mission.

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Since we are exploring the fringes of "Hidden Knowledge," would you like to see how the Electric Universe theory actually mirrors some ancient Vedic concepts of "Akasha" (Ether) and "Agni" (Sacred Fire), even if it's rejected by modern science?

Standard candels

 

The Big Bang never happened...the Big Bang never happened...the Big Bang never happened...

When God goes crazy

 

Never heard this weird Hindu myth before. Note the similarities between this story and certain myths about Kali. I mean, what *do* the Hindoos really believe is shaking? As a sidepoint, I´m sure Velikovsky could have used this legend as additional proof that Saturn smashed into Jupiter or something...

Folk horror

 

Thomas Sheridan discusses "The Event" in this video. Which prompted me to ask ChatGPT about this doomer-prepper fantasy (?). See the previous blog post.

Sheridan´s version seems to be that some kind of pole shift might destroy human civilization as we know it. Earth will become like Uranus (tilt-wise). The establishment is either trying to leave the planet (Elon Musk´s Mars mission) or survive by literally moving underground.

He also claims that tics which make you allergic to meat are engineered bioweapons... 

Two, three, many Big Bangs

 

There wasn´t just one Big Bang. There were *many* Big Bangs. They are still happening. And while gravity does exist, it´s not connected to mass, but exists independently. Hard to believe?  

Note that this YouTube channel *isn´t* affiliated with NASA, despite its name. Probably an alternative channel of some kind.  

Velikovsky´s virus

 

Let´s be honest: nobody cares about viruses in Lake Tanganyika six million years ago. Or fish. Or whatever they have in that darn waterhole. No, what everyone wants to know is: did human evolution "kickstart" due to that supernova and its cosmic rays? And if so, CAN IT HAPPEN AGAIN???  

Did a supernova kickstart evolution six miillion years ago?

Consider it art

 

Eh? Thomas Sheridan is really out on a limb here, which says a lot! Not sure what he is trying to accomplish, and somebody in the commentary section even wonders whether the whole thing is parody. An Erich von Däniken parody, to be more exact. Or was it Velikovsky? Or maybe both.  

My man Sheridan believes that the Victorian era is far too short. It must have been much longer in real time, perhaps two centuries or more. There is no way so much progress and population growth could have happened within so short a time span. These musings *do* sound like the "arguments" true believers in ancient aliens use when dissing, say, the Egyptians: "Surely, they can´t have moved so many bricks in so short a time to build the pyramids". Sheridan´s fanboys concur and believe that the Victorians were simply restoring stuff from the Roman Empire (which in this scenario must have been super-advanced).

Sherdian also wonders whether the population of Britain really is 68 million. He believes it must be much smaller, while the fans in the commentary section rather hold that it´s much larger, perhaps 80 million, which makes more sense (think illegal immigration). 

And yes, Sheridan´s camera is malfunctioning. Perhaps this peculiar episode of his never-ending out-put really should be seen as art...      

Porphyrion: Apocalypse or cradle?

 

Scientists have spotted a "black hole jet" that is 23 million light-years in length, erupting from a super-massive black hole God knows where. It´s been nicknamed Porphyrion, after a titan in Greek mythology. 

A powerful argument for atheism and the pitiless indifference of the cosmos? Maybe. But interestingly enough, black hole jets may have been instrumental in spreading magnetism throughout the universe. And without magnetism, ultimately no life.

So perhaps a bizarre phenomenon like Porphyrion is really the cradle of our existence...

Fill in alternative scene speculations about pillars of light, axis mundi, plasma and the Shiva lingam here.   

Biggest black hole jets ever

Tilt or cope?

 

A Nibiru-level conspiracy theory? Or an attempt to reconcile the realities of climate change with climate change denialism?  

Iceberg

 

Formscapes talks for over one hour about what he calls "divergent science". Topics covered include Lamarckism, bio-electricity, the Electric Universe, the collapse of the bicameral mind, integrated information theory and archetypal astrology. 

Formscapes defines himself as an evolutionary Neo-Platonist and is inspired by the process philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead. The unifying theme of his "divergent science" content is that the cosmos is really teleological and in some sense "organismic". 

While I kind of like this perspective, this doesn´t mean that the Cosmic Organism is God. It may simply be one of the Divine´s many limbs...or a fallen Demiurge who is frantically trying to find his redemption in an even higher state of being. 

Judging by other videos, Formscapes is more into, say, Teilhard. Wherein humans are a central part of a teleological process culminating in the Omega Point. But what makes us think we´re so special or necessary? Or even that the Organism itself is?  

Conjunction

 

Bing AI is like a drug or something..

The risqué Tantric form of Tripura Sundari looks kind of convincing, but the conjunction between a half-moon and Jupiter in the sky is...well, very Velikovskian! 

I originally assumed that Jupiter was Venus, but it did look kind of small, and after consulting an astronomy page I realized that it must be good ol´ Jove who appears very close to the Moon tonight. 

Too cold for wild Tantric dances in a moonlit forest, though!

How science became unscientific

 

An almost two-hour presentation from a YouTube channel known as Formscapes. It seems to blend metaphysics á la Whitehead and occultism with alternative or "fringe" science, including the Electric Universe. Also think Rupert Sheldrake! Actually quite interesting. 

The Mecca of historical revisionism

 

Some hard core historical revisionism concerning Islam...on a Christian channel. Which makes it problematic. Note that the Christian apologists don´t mind using a *heavy* dosage of the historical-critical method when discussing Islam, but what if an atheist (or even a Jew!) would apply the same technique to their own religion? 

I think all (or most, or many) religions started with genuine spiritual experiences and/or paranormal events, but then each got their own little "Mecca"...and here we are.

And can do no other?

Big Splash

 

Hmmm...

Sounds almost like Velikovsky!

Theia (planet)

The Flintstones are innocent

Since I habitually trash "the myth of the noble savage", it´s only fair to point out that according to a new theory, Paleolithic hunters didn´t exterminate the "charismatic megafauna". It really was naturally occuring climate change, triggered by a so-called geomagnetic reversal. But then, I´m also something of a catastrophist, so I can´t say I would be surprised if this turns out to be true. As usual, if you´re an atheist, this is the only world there is. And if you´re a pantheist, you have to fall down and worship the geomagnetic reversal as god. Good luck with that, kiddo! (The second link is a Swedish summary, btw). 

Geomagnetic reversal triggered apocalyptic conditions 42,000 years ago

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