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Look what I found in an old blog post of mine from 2018. This is the explanation we´ve been looking for!
>>>Steiner's lectures contain another very strange speculation: the claim that the Buddha went to Mars (or perhaps the “Mars sphere”, but Steiner does seem to mean the literal planet Mars) in order to carry out a Martian version of the Mystery of Golgotha (!).
>>>However, Buddha was never literally crucified (since the Martians seem to be ethereal beings, an actual crucifixion might have been impossible to arrange anyway), but rather sacrificed himself by sending out love and kindness to a planet the inhabitants of which were extremely aggressive.
>>>Apparently, this kind-hearted act has soothed the conflicts among the Martians, making it easier for human souls to pass through the planetary sphere of Mars during our cosmic sojourn between two earthly existences...
>>>I admit that this mutant Buddha legend is somewhat difficult to take seriously!
ChatGPT talks a bit too much here, but after rediscovering an old blog post of mine about this topic, I just had to ask...
Here is a link to Theosophy Wiki:
Can you tell me about the 8th sphere and the Moon according to Theosophy?
In Theosophical Society and related esoteric traditions, the ideas of:
belong to some of the most obscure, symbolic, and controversial parts of Theosophical cosmology.
These ideas were developed especially by:
The topic is difficult because:
Classical Theosophy often describes:
Human evolution supposedly unfolds through:
But Blavatsky also hinted at:
an abnormal or dangerous state outside the proper evolutionary chain:
the “Eighth Sphere.”
The Eighth Sphere is usually described as:
It represents:
In some interpretations:
souls that become utterly attached to lower desires drift toward the Eighth Sphere.
In early Theosophy,
the Moon plays a very strange role.
Blavatsky sometimes described the Moon as:
According to Theosophical cosmology:
Thus:
In Theosophy,
the Moon is often associated with:
But usually not with the highest spirituality.
Blavatsky repeatedly warned against:
Some later occult interpretations connect:
This does not mean the physical Moon literally contains damned souls.
Rather:
Rudolf Steiner,
who emerged from Theosophical circles,
reinterpreted these ideas heavily.
Steiner associated certain “Moon forces” with:
He also linked the Eighth Sphere to:
In Steiner’s cosmology,
the Eighth Sphere becomes almost:
a counterfeit creation separated from divine evolution.
Anthroposophy later developed the idea that humanity could become trapped between:
The Eighth Sphere became associated with:
This later influenced:
In many interpretations,
the Eighth Sphere represents:
consciousness cut off from true spiritual development.
Characteristics include:
It is often portrayed as:
Not exactly.
Theosophy generally rejects eternal damnation.
The Eighth Sphere is more like:
Some Theosophists suggested:
Blavatsky often associated lower astral realms with:
These lunar-astral regions could allegedly trap:
This contributed to the eerie reputation of the Moon in occultism.
Modern interpreters often read the Eighth Sphere symbolically as:
Psychologically,
it can resemble:
This is very different from traditions where the Moon symbolizes:
Theosophy often gives the Moon a more:
Theosophical Moon/Eighth Sphere ideas influenced:
But later interpretations vary enormously.
Blavatsky herself was often:
So there is no single perfectly clear doctrine of the Eighth Sphere.
Different occultists understood it differently:
The core symbolic contrast is often:
| Higher Evolution | Eighth Sphere |
|---|---|
| Spiritual ascent | Spiritual entrapment |
| Living spirit | Psychic residue |
| True enlightenment | Illusory pseudo-spirituality |
| Solar consciousness | Lunar shadow |
| Integration | Fragmentation |
Thus the Moon in these systems often symbolizes:
the ambiguous border between imagination, psychic experience, illusion, and spiritual danger.
Did Steiner predict AI in 1921?
>>>And from the earth will well up terrible creations of beings who in their character stand between the mineral kingdom and the plant kingdom as automative beings with a supernatural intellect, an immense intellect.
>>>When this development takes hold, the earth will be covered, as with a web, a web of terrible spiders, spiders of enormous wisdom, which however, in their organisation don’t even reach the plant status.
>>>Terrible spiders which will interlock with each other, which will imitate in their movements all that which humanity has thought of with their shadowlike intellect.
A rather bland and predictable criticism of Rudolf Steiner´s Anthroposophy c/o Doreen Virtue and a former Waldorf School teacher. There is one funny quip: Virtue at one point wonders if Ahriman is a character from "Lord of the Rings"!
But sure, I suppose Steiner really was an occultist. Although my main problem with Steiner Schools is that the students don´t actually seem to learn anything...
Not even occultism.
From the YouTube channel Formscapes:
>>>
As of the past couple of years, science communication headlines and pop-sci rhetoric have become increasingly and blatantly arcane. Notice how often words such as "illusion" are used. We are told that such and such phenomena aren't actually, really foreal real. We are told that our experiences of space and time - or physical reality itself - are "controlled hallucinations". "Simulation" theory is just a particularly computer-science-flavored variation of a much more general trend.
Many people within the more woowoo regions of the intellectual landscape seem to be very eager to see this as a concession of some sort; "Ah yes, finally..." they declare, "the scientards are finally wising up to the realization that physical reality isn't really real and that the really real reality is actually a world of [insert consciousness, spirit, quantum energy or whatever] which isn't actually visible to human perception!" Such morons believe that it is actually a positive thing that science is so unapologetically abandoning its final pretenses of actually being **empirical**, because their own woowoo beliefs are equally non-empirical, meaningless clickbait garbage. What we are seeing is not science on the verge of reconciling itself with consciousness. What we are seeing is science on the verge of becoming a disgraceful parody of itself and religion simultaneously - which is, to be fair, a rather impressive accomplishment. The psychical world is not hiding from you, concealed by your physical senses. If science is going to ever become truly scientific, it is indeed going to need to reconcile itself with psyche, but it must do so by being (for the first time) genuinely, radically empirical, not by becoming radically non-empirical.
Good luck with this material, a one-hour long discussion about Anthroposophy on (perhaps) middle level.
Yes, it´s Lucifer versus Ahriman, the Consciousness Soul, the Saturn period, the Solarian (?) and Lemurian periods, and so on. Fun fact: the guy who looks vaguely like Rudolf Steiner himself is actually *not* an Anthroposophist but rather a kind of Whitehead-Jung-occultic best blend. The female mystic Gigi Young, who looks vaguely Pre-Raphaelite, is the Anthroposophist.
Also contains some criticism of current American spirituality, including its weird combination of the Luciferic and the Ahrimanic. As in: use technology to transcend the world! Final point: is the plasma physicist mentioned the same person as the author of "The Sirius Mystery"? No idea.
As I said, good luck to ya. (Yes, my headline is somewhat ironic.)
Found this on a X account called Esoteric Philosophy Memes of East and West, but it´s apparently not his original content. Not sure who made it, but it´s damn funny!
Previously posted on September 6, 2018 under a different title.
"Christianity as Mystical Fact and the Mysteries of Antiquity" is a book by Rudolf Steiner, the founder of Anthroposophy, a spiritual movement which claims to represent esoteric Christianity. In his book, Steiner attempts to explain the relationship between the ancient mystery religions and Christianity. While he makes interesting points, the work is tedious, boring and difficult to read - although not as difficult as many other writings by this author!
Are there similarities between the space opera TV franchies "Babylon 5" and Anthroposophy? Or is it all LOTR fan fiction?
No idea, but it struck me that the war between the Shadows and the Vorlons could be seen as a conflict between Ahrimanic and Luciferic spirits. The Luciferic forces, which everyone assumed represents the "good spiritual guys", turn out to be just as problematic for further human evolution as the more obviously evil Ahrimanic host. Perhaps Commander Sheridan could be seen as a very angry Christ-being, expelling the lot from our galaxy, rather than "balancing" them?
In one episode, we also get to see the last human, who looks a bit like a Vorlon, before he too leaves the galaxy for greener evolutionary pastures. Is this based on Steiner´s idea of a future "Vulcan" incarnation, during which humans become like gods and indeed reach higher and loftier elevations?
No idea, and it probably means nothing, but there you go!
| Some racist shit (Credit: Neanderthal Museum) |
An
interesting piece on the fringey “initial bipedalism” hypothesis, which claims
that all vertebrates are descended from a kind of aquatic proto-human, which
later “dehumanized” into all the Vertebrata known today…except in the human
lineage, of course!
While this sounds very, very bizarre, I´m actually familiar with similar speculations about apes being descended from humans, rather than the other way around. See my review of Friedrich Kipp´s “Childhood and Human Evolution” on this blog (the second link below).
Kipp is probably an Anthroposophist, and Anthroposophy´s founder
Rudolf Steiner seems to have had a view of evolution similar to that of the initial
bipedalists, in which humans form the “stem” of a teleological evolutionary
process, with all other groups being side-branches. Hence, all living creatures
are – in some sense – devolved from a human archetype.
Steiner
also proposed, if memory serves me right, that the proto-humans were aquatic.
Kipp only discusses the great apes in his book, however, perhaps because he
wants to sound as scientific as possible. I didn´t know that a “scientific”
version of Steiner´s full speculations even existed, nor was I familiar with
the connection to cryptozoology. It seems Heuvelmans was far more “out there”
than I expected!
Very
interesting stuff to read on a lonely Good Friday morning…
I disagree (I think) with many of the points in the content linked above, but it is interesting, in a somewhat disturbing fashion...
"Dokument inifrån: De utvalda barnen" (The chosen children) is a Swedish documentary in three parts, only available in Swedish at SVT Play. The documentary is made by Jasper Lake, a former student at Solvikskolan, a radical Waldorf school at Järna south of Stockholm. As a grown-up, Lake started a Facebook group for former Solvik students, and much to his astonishment realized that the school had a dark side he was completely unaware of. Former students told stories about bullying and malign neglect, often at the initiative of the teachers. Lake realized that he had been one of the "good" kids, selected and specially treated by the teachers. Those who didn´t fit in were treated very differently...
Waldorf schooling is an "alternative" form of pedagogy developed by Austrian polymath Rudolf Steiner about 100 years ago. Steiner also created a religious or spiritual movement known as Anthroposophy. Waldorf education is based on the occult and frequently bizarre ideas of Steiner, who claimed the ability to "see" into the spirit-world by supernatural clairvoyance. In Sweden, Järna is the center of Anthroposophy. The relation between Solvikskolan and the wider Anthroposophical movement isn´t entirely clear. On the one hand, Solvik were expelled from the Swedish Waldorf Federation for being too extreme (really for following Steiner´s intstructions to the letter). On the other hand, Solvik were considered a role model by the Anthroposophists internationally, and the school´s founder Pär Ahlbom frequently lectured at meetings abroad, suggesting that *he* wasn´t expelled from much of anything (Ahlbom is in fact a devoted Anthroposophist).
The atmosphere at the school seems to have been bizarre and cultish even at the best of times (or "best"). Dance, song, music classes and pageants took up most of the school days, but the creativity of individual teachers or children must have been severly hampered by Steiner´s dogmatic specifications: no piano allowed, the dance was "eurythmy" - a special kind of dance developed by Steiner and his wife Marie von Sivers - and the pageants probably had an Anthroposophical message. The students were talked into thinking that they were part of something huge and important. In reality, they didn´t learn anything useful. When Jasper Lake began to attend a non-Waldorf senior high school, he was expelled after just one semester, since he literally didn´t know anything! Other students told similar stories: no grades, no knowledge, some could hardly read, and so on. When the government´s school inspectors showed up, the kids pretended to have real classes with real school books, which were quickly stashed away when the inspectors left...
Gradually, a darker picture emerges. As already noted, the children frequently bullied each other, often with the teachers not doing anything, or even initiating the bullying. The kids were encouraged to play in a rope swing hanging in a tree outside the school building. The play frequently ended with children getting seriously hurt - several times, students had to be flown to the nearest hospital in a helicopter! One teacher "played" some kind of suffocation game with the children, or even stepped on them (the kids were only 8 years old), presumably to make them "wake up spiritually". Children with special needs were looked down upon (yet, Anthroposophists claim to take care of such people), and so was essentially everyone who didn´t "fit the format" one way or another.
Steiner divided people into four categories depending on their temperament, and it seems that students who were seen as "sanguine" were promoted by the teachers, while the three other personality types were seen as more negative. One teacher let a kid attack and beat up another, with the argument that one of them needed an outlet for his agressions, while the other needed to learn to stand up for herself - apparently some kind of polarity work. Steiner´s weird belief system was never explicitly taught at the school, but it was certainly practiced. This includes its murkier sides, such as the belief in karma and reincarnation. That some kids were hurt or beaten up was seen as "karmic" and hence in some sense "good".
The spider in this web is Pär Ahlbom, who founded the school about 40 years ago. Lake interviewed him at some length. He also talked to his son Gudmund and daughter Elsa. At first, Ahlbom seems to be a nice old man (he is 88 years old) interested in spirituality, art and Kulturkritik. He comes across as a well-meaning utopian who simply doesn´t understand that his ideas and lofty ideals don´t work in the real world. Gradually, however, a more disturbing picture emerges. Pär seems to be in complete denial about what happened at the school during his time as de facto leader, says he "can´t remember" things, that a particularly crazy teacher was "spiritually interesting", etc. At one point, he even seems to be mocking the victims: "Oh, so you were hurt in your soul? How awful". His Anthroposophy is fanatical: Steiner, it seems, can never go wrong, it´s majority society that is sick and needs to change, not the Solvik school.
Elsa reveals that when she fell badly from the swing (at the age of 10) and was knocked unconscious, Pär didn´t really care...until she told him about an out-of-body experience she had during her trauma. This made him feel exilerated, claiming that her severe accident was actually positive! Elsa then says that her father never feels any shame, guilt or empathy, and seems almost impervious to pain. Is Pär actually a psychopath or, at the very least, a person with undiagnosed Asperger´s? That´s the question I asked myself when seeing this part of "De utvalda barnen".
At the very last moment, the documentary takes a *very* unexpected turn. Pär´s wife dies after a protracted battle with cancer. For the first time in his life, the old man feels real grief. Somehow, this makes him realize that he really has been a bad person most of his life. He admits having been a "dictator" and "almost a cult leader", and tries to reconcile himself with his son during a dramatic eye-to-eye meeting at Solvik. I have no idea whether Pär is sincere (although I would love to think so), but his last minute apology just might be what is needed to save the reputation of Waldorf schools in Sweden.
Swedish media haven´t yet commented the last episode (which haven´t been shown on regular TV yet, although it´s already available at SVT Play), but reactions to Waldorf schooling and Anthroposophy after the first two episodes were, as expected, uniformly negative. What did surprise me, frankly, was that the newspapers had no problems finding people who had attended Waldorf schools, or knew somebody who did...among their own contributors or sub-editors. Did every other crazy liberal in Sweden attend a Waldorf school? Did this affect their worldview somehow? Made them equally naive and fanatical? This is not the first time I´m baffled by the success among liberals or "the woke" of Waldorf pedagogy, despite the fact that Anthroposophy is a very "problematic" movement. I mean, Steiner supported Germany in World War I, believed in racial differences and hierarchies, and had an obsession with Goethe, who was politically conservative! He probably said something negative about Jews, too, although I haven´t bothered checking.
"Dokument inifrån: De utvalda barnen" is a tour de force and probably even worth some kind of award, but I feel that there might be more to unearth here...
Jag tänker recensera/kommentera dokumentärserien "De utvalda barnen" efter att ha tittat på alla tre avsnitten (det sista är ännu inte tillgängligt på SVT Play), men redan nu är serien *väldigt* uppmärksammad. Nedan en artikel från Aftonbladet som kortfattat tar upp problematiken kring Steiner och Waldorf.