Thursday, August 31, 2023

A report from the trenches


The first link goes to a kind of "situation report" c/o Richard Carrier concerning certain key ideas compatible with Mythicism. 

The second goes to one of my previous blog posts in which I speculate about the horrid fate and collapse of Christianity and Christendom in the wake of Carrierite Mythicism being triumphantly victorious. Clue: it aint gonna happen, dude!

Here is a quote from Carrier´s article:

>>>The idea that Christianity began with a High Christology. This is a problem for historicity because it means the idea that Jesus was an incarnate celestial being who existed since the dawn of time was not a later legend attached to a historical person. It is instead what Christians were claiming from day one. Which means no historical person was needed for this idea to take shape. 

>>>Though of course these ideas could have been attached to a historical person (even right away), any imagined revelatory encounter with such a being, discovered hidden in scripture and portending the imminent end of the world, would do. 

>>>Moreover, the concealing of this information in the Gospels thereby proves they were not meant to be literal guides to Christian history and doctrine, but hide the truth behind stories and allegory, letting the real doctrine only leak out slowly over time. Exactly as mythicism predicts, and only certain models of historicity do. 

Note also what he says about 1 Peter later in the text!

Some controversial ideas that now have wide scholarly support

Not the impossible faith

2 comments:

  1. It would take *Aeons* of time to read all the links provided herein! But yes I saw Carrier's statement "I have also long noted the claim that Peter was illiterate and not a fully educated Rabbi on a par with Paul has never been credible". So I duly re-read 1Peter as well...
    Regarding translations, William Barclay of Glasgow U. (1968) does a
    superb job of poetically (IMO) translating the NT from the Greek to English.
    All of Carrier's points are fascinating to say the least!

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  2. The idea that some Jews believed in a dying Messiah in particular...

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