Thursday, November 25, 2021

An extremely silly blog post



This is an extremely silly piece I wrote the other day when I had nothing else to do, and had been triggered by the usual autistic deontology-utilitarianism "debates" on the web. Take it for what you will. 

Is there such a thing as objective morality? Here are some reflections.

Imagine being a rationalist-rational philosopher who just proved in an entirely unimpeccable way (based on First Principles) a moral truth objectively valid in all possible worlds. And therefore...what? 

Therefore nothing, of course. Why should anyone follow such a splendid derivation? And when people continue not giving a damn, the only thing the Meta-Ethical Philosopher can do is to scream at them "YOU ARE BEING IRRATIONAL". In all possible worlds, presumably. After all, proving *what* is moral isn´t the same thing as making people do it, right? There´s just one little problem: nobody gives a damn now either. 

So we are still left with the little problem of what really makes people act morally. It certainly isn´t a First Principle entirely valid even in the Antares star system. Here is an example.

Let´s assume you live in Death Valley. There is no real community, but you don´t care, because you want to live for yourself. So "game theory" doesn´t apply here. You don´t believe in the Bible. Nor can the law do anything in this remote area. Now, what´s to stop you from burglarizing the house of your mentally handicapped neighbor (there are a few scattered houses in the valley) and steal his chest of gold? Or perhaps your eudaimonistic goal in life is to become a really good serial killer, and hone your serial killing passions accordingly. (And yes, such cases do exist. Jeffrey Epstein got away with it for decades. That´s game theory for you, right there. Sure, he was eventually killed, but so what? Maybe that´s an acceptable part of the game.) 

I think it´s pretty obvious that the answer is "nothing". Unless...unless there is also a third scattered house in the valley. This house is inhabited by a former biker who just served 25 to life for killing four people. He was set free for good conduct after 25 years. The biker is two metres tall, looks like an American football player, has huge tattoos all over his body, and carries a machine gun the size of Kyle Rittenhouse. He is also the brother of the mentally handicapped man, the guy with the chest of gold you want to steal. 

So you decide not to do it, after all. 

That´s how morality works. Everything else is just vain philosophical conceit. Or shit. Or whatever whenever.

That was an extreme example. But less extremely too, a "truly rational" morality would have to base itself on really existing human nature. What else could it possible be based on? Presumably a combination of selfish genes, genetic altruism and reciprocal altruism. (And, I suppose, "the altruism of fear" as in the example above.) Perhaps the most rational morality is the one combining or balancing these traits: your individual freedom, the safety of your family (and the safety *in* your family), and reciprocity with whoever isn´t your family (be it another family, another tribe, the state, the gods - provided such exist, and so on), since reciprocity enhances freedom and/or security. 

Morality is often based on other factors, too. Compassion is one. The yuck factor is another. We-are-not-like-the-Gentiles is a third. Some kind of "cuz reasons" factor may be a fourth ("No, we don´t eat red apples. Why? No idea, we just don´t"). Such things are probably "irrational", that is, irrational as part of morality specifically (unless they are *part* of that morality, which makes them rational - such as compassion directed towards your sworn blood brothers in the biker Männerbund, let´s say). They may be rational for other, non-moral reasons. Or you may have to take them into consideration anyway. 

Which brings me to my next point. There will always be moral conflicts between the goals mentioned: individual freedom, family, community, deals with other communities. There will also be conflicts about how to deal with all the irrelevant cultural dross which doesn´t really have anything to do with morality sensu stricto. For instance, if a strong aversion to red apples helps save the world from a thermo-nuclear conflagration, should we concoct a noble lie about a god named Thermo-Nucleus who can be appeased by not eating apples in said color? Or would this lead to unwanted discrimination of the color blind?

The point is: even though there may be an Absolute Morality somewhere in the clouds, in the Third Heaven, or thereabouts (in fact, I do think there is!), down here in the valley of death, morality will always be gritty (and perhaps even a bit nutty). Perhaps the best solution to our moral principles is to admit this fact, and act accordingly. Maybe that will solve some of our conundrums. 

That, and a really big machine gun. 


22 comments:

  1. Something´s wrong when the main fault line in moral philosophy is between neurotics ("deontology") and psychopaths ("utilitarianism"). Or trolls, which I sometimes suspect the latter may be.

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  2. Deontologist: "You can never ever lie. Not even if a murderer asks you for the whereabouts of his intended victim".

    Neurosis. That and Kant´s obsessive walks around Königsberg, or the fact that he never left the town in the first place.

    Utilitarianism: You should throw fat guys off bridges. And yes, I mean that quite literaly.

    How is that not fucking psychopathic?

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  3. And then there´s Alasdair MacIntyre. "I solved the problem by joining the Catholic Church, so now I have a morality. Of course, I can´t explain why the heck I did it, but since we´re all postmodernists now, I can do it. Yeah, really".

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  4. Don´t even get me started on G E Moore...

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  5. "Wanting nirvana is irrational". No, it isn´t. "Wanting permanent bliss with no human effort required is irrational". No, it isn´t.

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  6. Something´s missing from the damn equation. What?

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  7. And what the heck is the difference between "virtue ethics" and the two other schools?

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  8. "Everyone wants to be happy and avoid misery". Why is this considered such a profound statement, since it´s *true by definition*? And as an empirical statement, it´s obviously wrong. Many people want to be miserable.

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  9. Stop bullshitting me about "game theory", the game isn´t played according to the rules of enlightened game theoretical Victorian gentlemen, it´s played according to the rule book of JEFFREY EPSTEIN.

    Game over.

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  10. Has anyone actually *seen* a Rawlsian veil?

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  11. Can you name one moral philosopher who *actually* convinced people to do the right thing?

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  12. If you have, I have a invisible pink unicorn to sell you for Xmas. And a bridge, too.

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  13. The world was created by three gods slaying a giant. The giant was their father. Ever since, the giants wanted revenge. And one day, ye heathens, they shall get it.

    That´s the truth. Now, base your morality on this!

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  14. Vidar or Baldr, that´s the question.

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  15. När jag var 14 år och just skulle fylla 15 kom jag på att det i grunden finns två typer av moral. En som berodde på att man internaliserat påbud, med början från föräldrarna och sedan från andra auktoriteter. Den andra byggde på empati. Den första borde bekämpas, den andra främjas. Jag tycker nog samma sak idag.

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  16. PS. Men jag hade aldrig hört ordet empati då så jag kallade det för medkänsla.

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  18. PPS. Att låta bli att göra något för att någon kan skjuta ner en med ett maskingevär om man gör det, är inte ens auktoritetsmoral, det ät ingen moral alls. Däremot kan det bli en auktoritetsmoral om man tränger bort minnet av risken att bli nedskjuten, och om det enda som finns kvar av skräcken är en vag känsla om att man inte "ska" göra just detta.

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  19. När det gäller killen med maskingeväret så har du dessvärre rätt, och det är tyvärr lite av problemet också. "Gott uppförande" växer fram ur mynningen på en gevärspipa.

    Annars har jag (kanske) en bredare definition av moral än vad du har. Om man ingår ett avtal med en annan stam, så är det omoraliskt att bryta avtalet, men det verkar inte ha någonting med empati att göra. Omvänt kan empati vara missriktad: någon kan känna empati för en krigsförbrytare, låt säga. Så jag tror inte att moral helt enkelt kan baseras på medkänsla.

    Åtminstone något vi skulle kunna kalla samhällsmoral måste nog baseras på de saker jag nämnde: individens frihet, genetisk och reciprok altruism. Någon kan invända att detta är pragmatisk snarare än moral eller etik. Ja, kanske, fast då är mitt svar att "moral" inte fungerar i samhällslivet...

    Jag är inte moralfilosof, förstås, men det känns som att ingen har lyckats hitta någon "objektiv moralprincip" som är helt övertygande - hoppades själv kunna finna en sådan! Kanske finns det en objektiv moralprincip någonstans i det kosmiska medvetandet, men i så fall verkar vi inte kunna förstå den, och är ännu sämre på att tillämpa den. (Jämför hur Markions "främmande gud" är perfekt kärleksfull eller medlidande, men *just därför* står helt utanför vårt universum!)

    Kanske har jag helt enkelt blivit något slags "moralisk pessimist".

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  20. Om man bryter samarbetet med en annan stam kan det orsaka besvikelse och lidande hos medlemmar i båda stammarna. Därför torde empatin kunna leda till att gå emot ett sådant beslut. Men anta att man sedan upptäcker att den andra stammen var kannibaler torde empatin med de som äts upp kunna leda till en brytning. Om ett land hade slutit en icke-angreppspakt med Tyskland 1932 skulle väl empatin med judarna kunna leda till att det bröt pakten 1933. Om en kvinna lovar en man evig trohet och denne sedan börjar misshandla barnen borde empatin med dessa leda till att hon bröt dessa löften. Osv.

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  21. Det känns ändå som att det behövs någon slags högre princip som står över den rena medkänslan och avgör vad som är moraliskt. Någon form av upplyst självintresse eller kommunitärt intresse.

    Här är två lite obehagliga artiklar från Wiki:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion_fatigue

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion_fade

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