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När jag sökte på "Luciafirande" på en annan generator av AI-bilder fick jag upp detta. Lägg märke till - S;t Lucia är namnet på en ö, och helgonet Lucia firas nästan endast i Sverige. https://img.craiyon.com/2024-12-11/DQuVmzZdTMikF9VlywBr5Q.webp
Det här borde funka. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiRuvwkll7-hhR0_uxI-L8W5mdwWKh-ELbTVMJcviiqB7RJgd-FyaVfB5l2wAHyZZ01nlEFmQr5pGkz668kQRiA5joPW7yt1fALhuoV-QoYnMwCIvtGuqnJFR9zRIFJpYNFAJN-G0ryyVndpsrlqwZYjLZd6RWoodwOekERd0WErlxJ4k2zW0syHwbw55I=s256
Det funkade. Men Santa Lucia är förstås en halvö, och inte en ö, och i den sång som den svenska luciasången hämtat sin melodi från, besjungs den halvön, och inte helgonet. Så det är inte konstigt att ett AI-bildprogram, som inte är svenskt, lägger ut en bild som ska föreställa halvön.
Oj, då, då har de inte ens gått efter sången. "Texten är lagd i munnen på skepparen till en liten slup eller utfärdsbåt, som (åtminstone i sångens början) ligger vid kaj i Neapel. Han ropar in passagerare genom att lyriskt beskriva hur fager stadsdelen Santa Lucia är från havet. "Tu sei l'impero dell'armonia, Santa Lucia!” – ”Du är harmonins rike, Santa Lucia.”
Än i dag gäller, att från centrala Neapel skjuter den lilla halvön Santa Lucia ut i Neapelbukten. På denna halvö finns dels en pittoresk gammal borg, Castel dell’Ovo (byggd 1128), dels en liten skyddad hamn för mindre fartyg och småbåtar. Egentligen tycks borgen ligga på en liten ö, som via en kort bro fogats samman med centrala Neapels gatunät. Det är viktigt att betona, att den ursprungliga sången inte alls nämner helgonet, utan handlar om denna ö eller halvö, som är vackrast från sjösidan och därför bäst bör beskådas på litet avstånd ifrån en båt. I bakgrunden har man även vulkanen Vesuvius och det hänförande landskapet runt omkring som en vacker inramning."
How hard can it be? Obviosly AI needs more training, or encyclopedic input, to create a simple image of a prominent myth. I didn't know her appearance was after she was martyred. From college in a Minnesota:
"According to Swedish legend, after Lucia's death a ship carrying a maiden "clothed in white and crowned with light" appeared on the shore in the Swedish province of Varmland during a great famine. The maiden, widely believed to be Lucia, distributed food and clothing to the needy, thus endearing herself to the Swedish people."
I never heard this legend, and Värmland is landlocked. On the other hand, there is a large lake there, Vänern.
In its present form, the Swedish celebration isn´t older than 1928. In a somwhat different form, it was first documented in 1764 in Västergötland. My understanding is that "Lucia" is a combination of a German (sic) tradition taken up by the Swedish manorial class and students during the 18th century, and then combined with aspects of folkish revelry. It was originally a southwestern Swedish tradition (indeed including Värmland) but gradually spread all over the country.
Today, almost everyone celebrates St Lucy´s Day or Lucia. Sometimes very solemn and boring, sometimes more funny. I´ve seen celebrations for children, incredibly funny! As a kid, I was the gnome in a Lucia celebration, ha ha.
I had a Swedish colleague years ago who would bring Glogg for the office Christmas party. No doubt using the Saturnus mixer with grain alcohol! Nice and hot goes straight to the brain! This college is not far from me:
In northern Italy, St. Lucia Day is celebrated similarly to St. Nicholas Day. St. Lucia comes to town with a donkey and her escort, Castaldo. Children leave coffee for Lucia, flour for the donkey, and bread for Castaldo. St. Lucia leaves gifts in return. In the city of Siracusa, there’s a week long celebration with festivities, fireworks, sweets, and the vow not to eat pasta or bread.
In Finland, Luciadagen is observed a week before the Winter Solstice. St. Lucy is celebrated as a “beacon of brightness” in the darkest time of year.
In Norway, this use to be known as Lussinatten. On the longest night of the year, no work was to be done. Lussi, a feared enchantress, punished anyone who dared to work. According to legend, farm animals talked to each other on this night.
Lusse in Swedish. It´s a reference to Lucia. The whole thing is a bit complex, since St Lucy´s Day was traditionally considered dangerous in folk belief. No doubt because the winter solstice (the darkest day of the year) fell on December 13 during a period according to the Julian calendar. This was the day when demons were particularly active. Sometimes the name "Lusse" was associated with Odin´s Wild Hunt! But this is simply because "Lucia" was the name found in the calendar on that particular day. Note also the similarity between the names Lusse, Lucia and Lucifer - obviously because of the Latin root lux (light), but it´s kind of ironic that a name which could be misunderstood as a reference to the devil was associated with the darkest night of the year...
När jag sökte på "Luciafirande" på en annan generator av AI-bilder fick jag upp detta. Lägg märke till - S;t Lucia är namnet på en ö, och helgonet Lucia firas nästan endast i Sverige. https://img.craiyon.com/2024-12-11/DQuVmzZdTMikF9VlywBr5Q.webp
ReplyDeleteOj, då det funkade inte.
ReplyDeleteDet här borde funka. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiRuvwkll7-hhR0_uxI-L8W5mdwWKh-ELbTVMJcviiqB7RJgd-FyaVfB5l2wAHyZZ01nlEFmQr5pGkz668kQRiA5joPW7yt1fALhuoV-QoYnMwCIvtGuqnJFR9zRIFJpYNFAJN-G0ryyVndpsrlqwZYjLZd6RWoodwOekERd0WErlxJ4k2zW0syHwbw55I=s256
ReplyDeleteDet funkade. Men Santa Lucia är förstås en halvö, och inte en ö, och i den sång som den svenska luciasången hämtat sin melodi från, besjungs den halvön, och inte helgonet. Så det är inte konstigt att ett AI-bildprogram, som inte är svenskt, lägger ut en bild som ska föreställa halvön.
ReplyDeleteJag tror att bilden ska föreställa ön i Västindien.
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitons_(Saint_Lucia)
Oj, då, då har de inte ens gått efter sången. "Texten är lagd i munnen på skepparen till en liten slup eller utfärdsbåt, som (åtminstone i sångens början) ligger vid kaj i Neapel. Han ropar in passagerare genom att lyriskt beskriva hur fager stadsdelen Santa Lucia är från havet. "Tu sei l'impero dell'armonia, Santa Lucia!” – ”Du är harmonins rike, Santa Lucia.”
ReplyDeleteÄn i dag gäller, att från centrala Neapel skjuter den lilla halvön Santa Lucia ut i Neapelbukten. På denna halvö finns dels en pittoresk gammal borg, Castel dell’Ovo (byggd 1128), dels en liten skyddad hamn för mindre fartyg och småbåtar. Egentligen tycks borgen ligga på en liten ö, som via en kort bro fogats samman med centrala Neapels gatunät. Det är viktigt att betona, att den ursprungliga sången inte alls nämner helgonet, utan handlar om denna ö eller halvö, som är vackrast från sjösidan och därför bäst bör beskådas på litet avstånd ifrån en båt. I bakgrunden har man även vulkanen Vesuvius och det hänförande landskapet runt omkring som en vacker inramning."
Det borde jag insett eftersom ingen bebyggelse syns på bilden. Men jag visste inte om att det fanns en "Santa Lucia" i Västindien.
ReplyDeleteNej, ön heter Saint Lucia. Så AI har missförstått prompten.
ReplyDeleteHow hard can it be? Obviosly AI needs more training, or encyclopedic input, to create a simple image of a prominent myth. I didn't know her appearance was after she was martyred. From college in a Minnesota:
ReplyDeletehttps://gustavus.edu/events/stlucia/legend.php
"According to Swedish legend, after Lucia's death a ship carrying a maiden "clothed in white and crowned with light" appeared on the shore in the Swedish province of Varmland during a great famine. The maiden, widely believed to be Lucia, distributed food and clothing to the needy, thus endearing herself to the Swedish people."
ReplyDeleteI never heard this legend, and Värmland is landlocked. On the other hand, there is a large lake there, Vänern.
In its present form, the Swedish celebration isn´t older than 1928. In a somwhat different form, it was first documented in 1764 in Västergötland. My understanding is that "Lucia" is a combination of a German (sic) tradition taken up by the Swedish manorial class and students during the 18th century, and then combined with aspects of folkish revelry. It was originally a southwestern Swedish tradition (indeed including Värmland) but gradually spread all over the country.
ReplyDeleteToday, almost everyone celebrates St Lucy´s Day or Lucia. Sometimes very solemn and boring, sometimes more funny. I´ve seen celebrations for children, incredibly funny! As a kid, I was the gnome in a Lucia celebration, ha ha.
ReplyDeleteI had a Swedish colleague years ago who would bring Glogg for the office Christmas party. No doubt using the Saturnus mixer with grain alcohol! Nice and hot goes straight to the brain! This college is not far from me:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.northpark.edu/centers/center-for-scandinavian-studies/sankta-lucia-a-time-honored-tradition/#:~:text=According%20to%20legend%2C%20a%20well,food%2C%20light%2C%20and%20hope.
In northern Italy, St. Lucia Day is celebrated similarly to St. Nicholas Day. St. Lucia comes to town with a donkey and her escort, Castaldo. Children leave coffee for Lucia, flour for the donkey, and bread for Castaldo. St. Lucia leaves gifts in return. In the city of Siracusa, there’s a week long celebration with festivities, fireworks, sweets, and the vow not to eat pasta or bread.
DeleteIn Finland, Luciadagen is observed a week before the Winter Solstice. St. Lucy is celebrated as a “beacon of brightness” in the darkest time of year.
In Norway, this use to be known as Lussinatten. On the longest night of the year, no work was to be done. Lussi, a feared enchantress, punished anyone who dared to work. According to legend, farm animals talked to each other on this night.
Quoted the Web Holidays site
DeleteGuess it disappeared. Her alter ego Lussi ?
Deletehttps://web-holidays.com/blog/2014/12/15/december-13-santa-lucia-day-little-yule
Lake Vänern! Bingo. Probably a local tradition in those parts. I only drank glögg once (without alcohol), whoa, strong stuff even in that version!
ReplyDeleteLusse in Swedish. It´s a reference to Lucia. The whole thing is a bit complex, since St Lucy´s Day was traditionally considered dangerous in folk belief. No doubt because the winter solstice (the darkest day of the year) fell on December 13 during a period according to the Julian calendar. This was the day when demons were particularly active. Sometimes the name "Lusse" was associated with Odin´s Wild Hunt! But this is simply because "Lucia" was the name found in the calendar on that particular day. Note also the similarity between the names Lusse, Lucia and Lucifer - obviously because of the Latin root lux (light), but it´s kind of ironic that a name which could be misunderstood as a reference to the devil was associated with the darkest night of the year...
ReplyDeleteFolk beliefs and folk etymology can be bewildering...
ReplyDeleteThey are idiosyncratic, and regional, that's why we need Science and logicians like Her Majesty Sabine!
DeleteFor some reason, your long comment was spammed by Blogger, no idea why!
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