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This is from my pipeline, where it got stuck for some reason. Some old question I asked to an earlier version of the All-Knowing Chatterbox. Perhaps not very relevant anymore, but I´m bored so here we go anyway!
Where does the idea of The Storm come from originally? Did it exist already before QAnon? I have a faint memory that there were conspiracy forums already 2016 which claimed that Hillary Clinton would soon be arrested, taken to a penal colony onboard a large ship in the Caribbean, and so on. Or did this come later?
You're correct—"The Storm" as a concept didn't originate with QAnon in 2017. It draws on preexisting conspiracy folklore, much of which had already been circulating online, especially around 2015–2016, during the U.S. presidential election and immediately after. Let’s walk through its genealogy:
đ©️ Origins of “The Storm”
đč 1. The Term Itself (October 2017)
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The phrase “The Storm” was publicly coined by Donald Trump himself, during a cryptic photo-op with military leaders at the White House on October 5, 2017.
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He said to the press:
“Maybe it’s the calm before the storm.”
When asked what he meant, he replied:
“You'll find out.”
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This ambiguous comment became a foundational QAnon myth, when “Q” began posting shortly after (late October 2017), and followers interpreted “The Storm” as a coming purge of elite criminals.
đč 2. Pre-QAnon Precursors
Your memory is accurate—there were online conspiracy theories prior to QAnon that strongly resembled "The Storm." These came mostly from:
đž Conspiracy forums (Godlike Productions, 4chan, Reddit, etc.):
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Vague prophecies about mass arrests of the "deep state", with Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and others named.
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Rumors that U.S. military intelligence had secret sealed indictments.
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Stories of Guantanamo Bay or ships in the Caribbean being used as detention centers for the elite.
These ideas were heavily influenced by older narratives, including:
| Myth/Concept | Influence |
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| “Sealed indictments” | Patriot / militia movements (1990s–2000s) |
| FEMA camps | Post-9/11 anti-government conspiracy lore |
| Mass arrests | NESARA / GESARA spiritual-financial cults |
| Illuminati purges | Alex Jones, David Icke |
| Cabal/Deep State | Cold War “internal enemy” ideas, retooled for modern fears |
đč 3. NESARA / GESARA Influence
One of the strangest precursors is the NESARA movement (National Economic Security and Reformation Act), which emerged in the 1990s.
This belief system closely mirrors QAnon's early promises. Many NESARA followers later merged with the QAnon movement.
đč 4. The Myth of Hillary’s Imminent Arrest (2016–2017)
There were indeed posts on 4chan and Reddit (especially in r/The_Donald) before Q emerged, claiming:
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Hillary Clinton was about to be arrested.
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Military units were in place.
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She would be exiled or detained at sea or in Guantanamo.
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A “White Hat” vs. Cabal” war was secretly underway.
One infamous meme showed a cruise ship dubbed a "prison barge" parked off Guantanamo Bay, ready for elite prisoners. While often parody, some users took it as literal.
đč 5. Why “The Storm” Resonated
“The Storm” was successful because it condensed these diverse elements into a single apocalyptic prophecy:
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It promised justice without trusting traditional institutions.
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It gave a savior narrative with Trump as the hero.
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It combined evangelical rapture, martial law, and end-times symbolism.
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It provided a moral binary: the awakened vs. the corrupt.
đ§ Summary
| “The Storm” Is… | Rooted In… |
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| QAnon's foundational myth | Trump’s “calm before the storm” comment (2017) |
| A prophecy of mass arrests | NESARA, militia conspiracies, 4chan lore |
| A modern apocalypse | Evangelical eschatology + political paranoia |
| A way to mythologize Trump | Savior against evil forces |
So yes—you’re absolutely right. “The Storm” crystallized a set of older conspiratorial ideas and gave them a powerful mythic name. QAnon merely codified them into a religious-political narrative.
Would you like a visual timeline of this evolution or a summary of key pre-QAnon mythologies that fed into it?
OrdmÀssigt nÀraliggande. Jag: "NÀr uppkom uttrycket "The perfect storm"?
ReplyDeleteChatGPT: "Uttrycket “The perfect storm” i sin moderna, bildliga betydelse uppkom i slutet av 1990-talet.
1997 publicerade journalisten Sebastian Junger boken The Perfect Storm, som handlade om den ovanligt kraftiga stormen i Nordatlanten 1991.
Boken (och senare filmen frÄn 2000) gjorde uttrycket allmÀnt kÀnt.
DÀrefter började frasen anvÀndas metaforiskt för att beskriva en situation dÀr flera ogynnsamma faktorer sammanfaller och skapar ett extremt utfall.
SjÀlva orden kunde förekomma tidigare i meteorologiska sammanhang, men det var Jungers bok som etablerade uttrycket som ett allmÀnt idiom."
Kolla om ChatGPT kÀnner till The STORM Act frÄn 2021... ;-)
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