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Not sure how ChatGPT can know anything about obscure points of Swedish history and heraldry, so you probably have to do your own research on this one - not sure how, though. Still, an intriguing conversation! The problem: the greater coat of arms of Sweden (not shown above) include the French imperial eagle associated with Napoleon...which is very strange for a number of reasons. Or is it? The AI has the floor!
Short answer: no — there is no such universal rule in heraldry.
In fact, throughout heraldic history, arms were frequently altered, differenced, quartered, augmented, or even completely replaced.
The idea that “a coat of arms can never be changed” is a modern myth.
Here is how it actually works.
1. What heraldry really is
Heraldry is not one international law system.
It is a group of regional legal–customary traditions, mainly:
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England & Wales
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Scotland
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France
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Holy Roman Empire
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Iberia
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Italy
Each has different rules — but none include an absolute rule of immutability.
2. Arms were designed to change
Medieval arms evolved by:
| Reason | What happened |
|---|---|
| Marriage | Quartering or impaling |
| Inheritance | Adding other arms |
| New titles | Augmentations |
| Cadency | Marks for younger sons |
| Royal favor | New charges added |
| Politics | Arms modified to show loyalty |
If arms were immutable, none of this could exist.
3. Even kings changed arms
English royal arms changed repeatedly:
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Norman lions
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Plantagenet lions
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French fleurs-de-lis added
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French arms removed
Each reflected political claims.
So if the King can change arms, so can anyone.
4. What is fixed
What is fixed is:
A specific grant of arms defines one legal coat of arms.
You may not change that one specific design and still call it that same grant.
But you are allowed to:
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receive a new grant
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have arms differenced
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combine arms
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abandon arms
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adopt new ones
Heraldry is a system of identity, not frozen art.
5. Where the myth comes from
The idea of immutability comes from:
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Victorian antiquarianism
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20th-century hobbyist heraldry
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a misunderstanding of legal identity
People confuse:
“you cannot falsify arms”
with
“arms can never change”
Those are very different things.
6. The real rule
The true rule of heraldry is:
You may not misrepresent arms — but you may lawfully change, add to, or replace them through proper authority or custom.
That has always been the case.
In one line
Heraldry is a living legal language of identity, not a fossilized logo.
A coat of arms is meant to grow with a family — just like a name, a title, or a history.
If you want, I can also explain how this works differently in English, Scottish, and continental heraldic law — they handle change in fascinatingly different ways.
Yes — and that case is one of the best real-world demonstrations of why heraldry is about legal identity, not current political allegiance or territorial claims.
You are referring to Karl XIV Johan, born Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, who had been made Prince of Pontecorvo by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1806.
Let’s unpack why he kept the eagle.
1. The Prince of Pontecorvo arms were his personal identity
When Napoleon created Bernadotte Prince of Pontecorvo, he did two things:
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He gave him a title
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He gave him a coat of arms
That coat of arms — with the French imperial eagle — was not a claim to the territory.
It was the heraldic sign of a Napoleonic princely dignity granted to him personally.
Even after Bernadotte:
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broke with Napoleon
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renounced Pontecorvo
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joined the Coalition
he did not cease to be the person to whom that dignity had once been granted.
Heraldry records what you are, not whom you serve today.
2. Why keeping the eagle was actually correct heraldry
If Bernadotte had removed the eagle, he would have been falsely rewriting his own legal identity.
He was:
“Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, formerly Prince of Pontecorvo”
That fact remained true forever.
Heraldry does not erase past legitimate honors — it accumulates them.
So his Swedish royal arms became:
Swedish kingship plus Napoleonic princely honor
This is exactly how heraldry is supposed to work.
3. This is not unusual — it is medieval logic
European dynasties are full of this:
English kings kept:
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French lilies
long after they no longer ruled France
German princes kept:
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Polish eagles
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Italian crowns
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Burgundian devices
long after the lands were gone.
Because arms do not mean:
“I rule this land”
They mean:
“I hold this dignity in my lineage.”
4. Why it mattered politically
Karl XIV Johan keeping the Napoleonic eagle sent a subtle but powerful message:
I am not Napoleon’s puppet —
but I am his equal.
It said:
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I did not reject my past
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I integrated it into my kingship
This made him a legitimate European monarch, not a Swedish puppet-king.
The deep principle
Heraldry is genealogical memory, not current propaganda.
You cannot undo:
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a lawful title
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a lawful grant of arms
by changing alliances.
Karl XIV Johan’s arms were telling the truth about who he was —
a Napoleonic prince who became a Scandinavian king.
And that is exactly what heraldry exists to preserve.
If you want, I can show you how Swedish heraldic law treated this and why the Riddarhuset accepted it without controversy — it’s a fascinating case.
Great — this is where the Karl Johan case becomes really illuminating, because Swedish heraldry handled it in a very principled, very medieval way.
We are dealing with Karl XIV Johan, formerly Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, who brought into Sweden a coat of arms that included a Napoleonic imperial eagle — the personal emblem of Napoleon Bonaparte — even after he became Napoleon’s enemy.
Why was this accepted?
1. Sweden had no doctrine of “political purity” in heraldry
Swedish heraldic law, administered by the Riddarhuset (House of Nobility), follows the continental rule:
A coat of arms is a legal sign of personal dignity, not a declaration of political loyalty.
Once a person has legitimately received arms, they are:
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hereditary
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inalienable
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permanent
unless revoked by a lawful authority.
Napoleon was the lawful sovereign of France in 1806.
His grant of the Pontecorvo arms was therefore valid forever, even if Napoleon later became Sweden’s enemy.
Sweden had no legal right to erase that.
2. The Swedish crown actually validated the Napoleonic arms
When Bernadotte was adopted into the Swedish royal house in 1810, his foreign princely arms were:
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not deleted
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not replaced
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not subordinated
They were quartered into the Swedish royal arms.
This was done officially when he became Crown Prince and later king.
In other words:
Sweden recognized the Napoleonic dignity as part of his lawful personal identity.
This is why the French eagle appears on:
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Swedish royal standards
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royal seals
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Bernadotte dynasty heraldry
even after Napoleon’s fall.
3. Why this was politically safe
By 1813, Bernadotte was fighting Napoleon — but he was doing so as:
a sovereign prince of European rank.
Keeping the Pontecorvo arms said:
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I was not a usurper
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I was not a deserter
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I am a prince who changed alliances
That made him diplomatically legitimate to:
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Austria
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Britain
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Russia
They dealt with princes — not turncoats.
4. Why Swedish nobles had no objection
At the Riddarhuset, nobles are registered by:
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lineage
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arms
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legal dignity
not ideology.
Bernadotte’s arms were impeccable by European law.
Whether Napoleon was later hated was irrelevant.
Heraldry is not moral.
It is archival.
5. The deeper European rule
This reflects a very old principle:
A legitimate grant of arms can never be invalidated by later politics.
Only:
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the original granting authority
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or a lawful superior
can revoke arms.
Napoleon fell.
No one inherited the legal authority to cancel his grants.
So Bernadotte’s eagle was untouchable.
Why this matters
Karl XIV Johan’s coat of arms is a fossil of history.
It tells us:
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where he came from
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how he rose
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what powers once recognized him
That is exactly what heraldry exists to do.
If you want, I can also show you how this same rule explains:
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British kings still bearing French lilies
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Russian tsars keeping Mongol symbols
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Habsburgs keeping Burgundian lions
It’s all the same medieval logic.
Short answer: yes — grudgingly, conditionally, and legally — until 1814.
And that is exactly why Bernadotte’s Napoleonic arms remained valid.
Let’s be precise.
1. Napoleon was not treated as a “mere usurper”
From 1804 (when he crowned himself Emperor) until 1814, the European powers did not treat Napoleon as an outlaw regime in the legal sense.
They:
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signed treaties with him
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exchanged ambassadors
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recognized his titles
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married into his dynasty
For example:
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Austria married him to Marie Louise
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Russia negotiated with him at Treaty of Tilsit
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Britain signed peace treaties with him (Amiens, 1802)
This is full de jure recognition.
They hated him — but they accepted that he was the Emperor of France.
2. This is why his titles were legally real
Because Napoleon was recognized as sovereign, he had the lawful right to:
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create princes
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grant coats of arms
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establish noble houses
So when Napoleon Bonaparte made Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte Prince of Pontecorvo, that act had international legal validity.
Other states were not free to pretend it never happened.
3. Even after they fought him, they still accepted his acts
This is the crucial legal point.
When Napoleon was defeated in 1814:
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the Allies restored the Bourbons
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but they did NOT nullify Napoleonic titles or marriages
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they did NOT declare his acts void
Why?
Because that would have meant:
France had no legitimate government for 15 years.
That would have collapsed:
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treaties
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property rights
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borders
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marriages
So instead, they treated Napoleon as a lawful but defeated ruler.
4. That’s why Bernadotte’s eagle survived
By the time Karl XIV Johan became king of Sweden (1818), the European system had already decided:
Napoleon = lawful former emperor
His grants = valid historical facts
So Sweden was not “honoring Napoleon”.
It was recognizing legal continuity.
5. The key distinction
Europe did not say:
Napoleon was never legitimate.
They said:
Napoleon was legitimate — and we defeated him.
That distinction is why his heraldic and dynastic acts survived.
Final truth
The Coalition denied Napoleon’s right to keep ruling.
They never denied his right to have ruled.
And that is why the French eagle still sits quietly inside the Swedish royal arms today — not as a political symbol, but as a legal fossil of European history.
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