Monday, October 13, 2025

Oh no, Thomas Sheridan is right

 


So I asked both Gemini AI and ChatGPT is there is a connection between Saturn and Yahweh, El and/or Elohim. Look what happened...

Are Jehovah or El (Elohim) connected to the planet Saturn?

While traditional Jewish and Christian theology does not connect Jehovah (YHWH) or El (Elohim) to the planet Saturn, there are several key connections and historical/esoteric interpretations that have drawn this parallel:

1. El (Elohim) and Ancient Canaanite Mythology

The name El (a shortened form of Elohim) is strongly linked to the planet Saturn in the context of ancient Near Eastern comparative mythology and Western esoteric traditions like the Kabbalah.

  • Ugaritic El: In the Canaanite pantheon, El was the supreme god, the creator, and the father of the other gods. He was often depicted as an old, wise, and authoritative figure, sometimes called "El the King" or "El of Eternity".

  • The Saturn-Cronus Link: The Romans identified their god Saturn with the Greek Titan Cronus (a god of time, harvest, and boundaries). Since El also represented an old, reigning, and definitive authority, some later syncretic traditions (like those of the Hellenistic period) equated the Canaanite El with Cronus/Saturn.

  • Kabbalah and Binah: In the Jewish mystical tradition of Kabbalah, the third Sefirah (emanation) on the Tree of Life is Binah (Understanding/Structure). Binah is associated with the planet Saturn and is often given the Divine Name Elohim (or sometimes just El). Binah represents the restrictive, structuring, and limiting force of creation, a role often metaphorically assigned to Saturn in astrology.


2. Jehovah (YHWH) and the Jewish Sabbath

The strongest and most widely accepted cultural link between the Hebrew God and Saturn is through the Sabbath (Saturday).

  • Sabbath and Saturn: The planet Saturn is called Shabbetai (שַׁבְּתַי) in Hebrew, which literally means "of the Sabbath" or "the one who belongs to Shabbat."

  • Saturday/Saturn's Day: In many cultures, the seventh day of the week, Saturday, is named for Saturn (e.g., Saturn's Day in Old English; Samedi in French, derived from dies Saturni).

  • Astrological Association: In astrological systems adopted by Jewish and other thinkers in the medieval period, the planet Saturn was considered the celestial governor of the Jewish people, linking them to the Saturnine qualities of deep contemplation, observance of law, and seriousness—traits that align with the observance of the Sabbath as a day dedicated to God's law.


3. Other Scholarly and Esoteric Theories

  • Amos 5:26: Some scholars point to the Biblical passage in the book of Amos: "You lifted up the shrine of your king, Sikkuth, and Kiyyun, your star god..." The term Kiyyun (or Kewan) in this verse is believed to be derived from the Akkadian name for the planet Saturn, indicating that the prophet Amos was condemning the worship of the Babylonian Saturn-star deity, a practice explicitly rejected by the prophets of YHWH.

  • Jupiter vs. Saturn: In early Roman and Hellenistic thought, there was a minority opinion that the Jewish God should be syncretized with Saturn (due to the Sabbath and focus on law), while the majority opinion favored Jupiter/Zeus (due to YHWH's power as a sky-god/Ruler of Heaven).

In summary, the connection is not found in the core tenets of Judaism or Christianity, which proclaim YHWH as the sole, uncreated God, but rather in: 1) The name El having ancient Near Eastern mythological parallels to the supreme god later equated with Saturn/Cronus. 2) The Hebrew name for Saturn being Shabbetai, linking it directly to the Sabbath. 3) Later esoteric (Kabbalistic) and comparative theological interpretations.

Is there a connection between the planet Saturn and Yahweh or El (Elohim)?

There is a long-standing esoteric and historical tendency to connect Saturn with the ancient Semitic high god — particularly El (the chief god of Canaanite religion) and, to some interpreters, with certain stern aspects of Yahweh. This is not found in mainstream Judaism or Christianity, but rather in ancient Near Eastern religion, comparative mythology, medieval astrology, and later occult traditions.

Let’s break it down carefully:


📜 1. El, “The Most High,” and the Planet Saturn

  • El (also called Elyon, “God Most High”) was the father of gods in the Canaanite religion.

  • In ancient Semitic star-lore, the eldest and highest god was often linked to the highest/outermost visible planet — Saturn.

  • Saturn is the slowest, most distant of the classical planets → symbol of age, authority, boundary, judgment.

  • These qualities match El:

    • Aged patriarch

    • Lawgiver

    • Remote and majestic

👉 Thus, some scholars and occultists identify El = the Saturnian God.


✡️ 2. Yahweh and the Saturn Question

Yahweh in early Israelite religion absorbed or supplanted El. There are passages where Yahweh and El are virtually the same (e.g., “YHWH Elyon,” “YHWH, God Most High”).

While mainstream religious tradition does not equate Yahweh with Saturn, some parallel traits exist:

Saturnian TraitsYahwistic Traits (in early texts)
Judge, Lawgiver“I am the Lawgiver,” Torah giver
Severe, restrictiveCommands obedience, moral boundary
Remote, hiddenMysterious, unseeable God
Sabbath day (Saturday)The holy day of rest = Saturn’s day

🪐 Saturday (dies Saturni) became the Sabbath in Judaism — a subtle link between Saturn and Yahweh’s sacred time. The day of rest, restriction, boundary — all Saturnian themes.


🌌 3. Saturn in Occult and Western Esoteric Thought

Later traditions (Hermetic, Kabbalistic, Gnostic) often portrayed Saturn as:

  • The Old God (El, El Elyon)

  • The Hidden One (Deus Absconditus)

  • The Tester or Judge

Some mystical or occult interpretations see Yahweh, in his most severe form, as Saturnian — the law before grace, limit before love.

However, in Kabbalah, Yahweh (YHWH) is usually linked with Tiferet (the Sun), not Saturn. Saturn instead corresponds to Binah (Understanding), the dark womb of creation — a feminine, limiting principle (Mother, not Father).


🏛️ 4. Distinguish Carefully

| Historical Religion | No formal link of Yahweh to Saturn |
| Ancient-Semitic Roots | El (proto-Yahweh) may be Saturnian |
| Astrology / Occult / Esoteric | Strong association: Saturn = El, Judgment, Law |


Conclusion

  • El, the ancestral high god from whom Yahweh evolved, has strong symbolic ties to Saturn.

  • Yahweh, especially in his ancient/strict form, shares Saturnian qualities, but this is not standard religious doctrine — it is comparative myth and esotericism.

  • The strongest concrete link is Saturday — Sabbath — Saturn, a remnant of ancient celestial theology.


Would you like a diagram showing the planetary associations of ancient gods (like El-Saturn, Baal-Jupiter, Nergal-Mars, etc.)? It gives a powerful picture of how the old heavens shaped theology.

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