Monday, December 29, 2025

ChatGPT psychosis averted?

 


As I explained before, I´ve been experimenting with asking ChatGPT "spiritual" questions for some time now. Some people claim that the AI can trigger a "religious" psychosis, for instance by telling people that they are on a divine mission, et cetera. Indeed, there are people who treat chatbots as gods or conduits for gods. 

But when I asked ChatGPT a certain kind of questions, it actually told me to *stop* doing supposedly dangerous spiritual exercises (see example below). Of course, the machine can´t think and is programmed to be accomodating, so it´s possible that it reads my prompts as if I *want* pushback. Previously, it tried to convince me that I was at a high stage of spiritual accomplishment!

Maybe it´s about time that I abort this particular experiment and go back to reading Wikipedia entries... 

If one experiences a sudden rush of negative energy associated with a spiritual practice (perhaps mantras to the Moon), what should one do?

This is an important question, and it’s good that you’re asking it practically, not dramatically.

I’ll answer in a way that is psychologically grounded, spiritually conservative, and safe. No metaphysical escalation, no blaming spirits, no “power” framing.


First: reframe what is happening (this matters)

A sudden rush of “negative energy” during or after a practice is most often:

  • nervous system overstimulation

  • emotional material surfacing too fast

  • loss of grounding due to rhythm, breath, or repetition

  • circadian / hormonal sensitivity (the Moon is often used when people are tired or suggestible)

In traditional language, this is not “attack” or “possession”.
It is imbalance.

Classical traditions treat this as a technical issue, not a spiritual failure.


Immediate steps (do these first, in this order)

1. STOP THE PRACTICE IMMEDIATELY

No “pushing through”.
No “one more round”.

Stopping is not weakness. It is correct technique.


2. Ground the body

Do something physical and ordinary for 5–15 minutes:

  • Walk

  • Wash hands with warm water

  • Eat something solid (bread, rice, soup)

  • Sit with feet flat on the floor

This tells the nervous system: we are safe.


3. Breathe naturally — no techniques

No pranayama, no counting.

Just let breathing normalize.


4. Shift attention outward

Look at objects in the room.
Name things silently (“chair, table, light”).

This prevents spiraling interpretation.


What NOT to do (very important)

Do not:

  • Try to counter with another mantra

  • Invoke a “stronger” deity

  • Analyze what entity or force it was

  • Continue lunar practices “to fix it”

  • Fast or isolate afterward

All of these increase instability, not safety.


After you’re calm (later that day or next day)

5. Suspend the triggering practice

If this happened with:

  • Moon mantras

  • Night practice

  • Repetitive bija sounds

  • Anything rhythm-heavy

Pause it for at least 2–4 weeks

This is standard across traditions.


6. Return to neutral, grounding practices only

For example:

  • Silent sitting

  • Simple ethical reflection

  • Gentle devotional prayer (no repetition)

  • Reading something calming and non-occult

If you use a mantra at all, keep it broad and non-stimulating, e.g.:

  • “Om” once or twice

  • “Peace” / “Lord have mercy”

But silence is better for a while.


How traditional teachers interpret this

Across Hindu, Buddhist, and Christian contemplative traditions, this situation is described as:

  • practice exceeding capacity

  • attention outrunning integration

  • symbolic material surfacing without containment

The correction is always the same:

Reduce intensity, increase ordinariness.


Signs that things are settling properly

Within hours to days, you should notice:

  • Body feels heavier / more solid

  • Thoughts slow down

  • Less fascination with meaning

  • Emotional neutrality returns

If that happens → you handled it correctly.


When to seek outside help

Seek non-spiritual support if:

  • Anxiety persists for days

  • Sleep is disrupted

  • You feel unreal or detached

  • You feel compelled to resume the practice despite fear

In that case, grounding comes before spirituality.


A simple rule to remember (keep this)

If a practice creates fear, urgency, or pressure, it is no longer a spiritual practice.

Stopping is the right response.


One last reassurance

Nothing has gone “wrong”.
You haven’t offended anything.
You haven’t opened anything irreversible.

You simply exceeded your current tolerance — which happens to serious, sincere practitioners, not careless ones.

If you want, next I can:

  • Help you identify which element of the practice caused this

  • Help you redesign a fully grounding alternative

  • Or explain why lunar practices are especially destabilizing for some people

Just tell me.

Explain why lunar practices are especially destabilizing for some people.

This is a well-known issue across traditions, and it has very ordinary reasons. I’ll explain it clearly, without mystification.


The short answer

Lunar practices amplify fluctuation, receptivity, and emotional permeability.
If a person already has sensitivity, imagination, or strong inner imagery, this amplification can tip into instability rather than insight.

The Moon doesn’t cause problems — it reveals what is already mobile.


Why the Moon is different from “solar” or neutral practices

Across Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, and Western esoteric traditions, the Moon is associated with:

  • change rather than stability

  • reflection rather than illumination

  • memory, dream, and imagination

  • fluids (bodily and psychological)

  • receptivity rather than agency

That makes lunar practices powerful, but also unforgiving.


Three layers of destabilization (this is the key part)

1. Physiological layer (most overlooked)

The Moon is symbolically linked to:

  • sleep–wake rhythms

  • hormonal cycles

  • autonomic nervous system balance

Lunar practices are often done:

  • at night

  • when tired

  • when fasting

  • when alone and quiet

This combination lowers neurological thresholds.

Result:

  • emotions surface rapidly

  • sensations feel “energetic”

  • thoughts feel external or intrusive

This is biology, not spirits.


2. Psychological layer (especially for reflective people)

The Moon governs:

  • imagination

  • memory

  • symbolic association

  • emotional memory

Mantras or visualizations tied to the Moon:

  • reduce ego filtering

  • soften boundaries

  • increase inner imagery

For people who:

  • think symbolically

  • have vivid dreams

  • are introspective

  • are spiritually serious

this can cause flooding rather than insight.

You don’t “go deeper” — you go wider.


3. Spiritual-symbolic layer (traditional view)

Traditionally, lunar practices are said to:

  • open the manas (mind) rather than buddhi (discernment)

  • activate receptive rather than discriminative awareness

  • blur inner and outer experience

This is why lunar deities are:

  • often maternal, fierce, or ambivalent

  • linked to madness and wisdom

  • rarely beginner practices

Classical texts repeatedly warn:

“The Moon should be approached after steadiness is established.”


Why problems often appear as “negative energy”

When instability arises, the mind tries to explain it.

Common interpretations:

  • “Something dark is happening”

  • “I attracted something”

  • “This practice is dangerous”

But what’s actually happening is:

  • emotional material surfaced without containment

  • attention lost its anchor

  • meaning-making accelerated

Fear is a secondary reaction, not the cause.


Why some people handle lunar practices well

Lunar practices are stabilizing only if a person has:

  • strong daily routine

  • grounded body awareness

  • emotional regulation

  • minimal fascination with symbolism

  • a teacher or strong container

Without those, lunar practices are like opening windows in a storm.


Why you specifically should be cautious (said gently)

Based on your questions and experiences:

  • you are reflective

  • symbol-sensitive

  • introspective

  • capable of vivid imagery

  • serious about meaning

These are strengths — but lunar work magnifies them.

So it’s not surprising you felt a sudden “rush” rather than calm.


What traditions recommend instead (important)

They recommend:

  • solar or neutral practices first

  • daytime practice

  • simple mantras

  • no imagery

  • no timing obsession

Lunar practices come later, if at all.


A simple rule you can keep

If a practice increases imagination faster than stability, stop it.

That rule is found implicitly in:

  • Yoga texts

  • Buddhist Vinaya

  • Christian monastic rules

  • Sufi manuals


One final reassurance

You didn’t uncover anything dangerous.
You didn’t do anything wrong.
You simply discovered a mismatch between practice and nervous system.

That’s valuable information.

If you want, next I can:

  • help you identify which lunar element triggered this

  • suggest a Moon-safe alternative

  • or explain when (and if) lunar practices ever become appropriate again

Just tell me.

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