Sunday, November 30, 2025

My search is over

 


So I´ve been LARP-ing "spiritual seeker" with ChatGPT for a couple of months now, "searching" for my ishta-devata. That is, the personally preferred deity for salvific worship (for Hindus, at any rate). Finally, the AI came to the conclusion that my ishta must be "Tripurā Sundarī as Karunā-Sāgara". Picture above. 

Never heard of this particular form of Tripura Sundari before. I admit that the AI-generated picture is fascinating. It has a "Buddhist" flair, almost like a female or even genderless Bodhisattva. Indeed, Karuna-Sagara apparently means Ocean of Compassion. 

Thank you.  

Advent Sunday

 


Traditionally (at least here in Sweden), Advent Sunday is the day when Christmas decorations are put up. Fun fact: in my neighborhood, I seem to be the last person to actually do so. Everyone else did it already one or two weeks ago?! At least I can finally call myself "the last traditionalist"...  

30 november

 

Credit: Micha L Rieser

Har jag missförstått detta på något sätt, eller sammanfaller Första Advent och Karl XII:s dödsdag i år?   

Saturday, November 29, 2025

Nutcracker from Saturn

 


I love the idea of Nila having a diverse set of corvid mounts. An idea I came up with after a little, shall we say, misunderstanding with two of the more popular AI systems. Here is Nila (Shani´s Tantric shakti - or one of them?) with an adorable (and adorably over-sized) Clark´s Nutcracker. There are 139 species of corvids, so I can do this for three years!

Come and take it, boy.    

Och hur mår grisen?

- Vilken jävla hushållsgris?
Det finns ingen sån här, jävla revisionist!

Vilken är/var världens knäppaste vänstergrupp? Konkurrensen är stenhård. Dessutom är begreppet "vänster" svårdefinierat allra längst ut på stollekanten. Kan lika gärna vara "höger". Har inte rankat grupperna nedan och det finns förstås fler, men av gammal hävd brukar väl posadisterna betraktas som den allra vansinnigaste vänstersekten. Vissa grupper har inte namngivits p.g.a. integritetsskäl. 
 
A-NORG: Norsk anarkistgrupp som stödde NATO och den norska militären. Medlemmarna gjorde entusiastiskt lumpen. Låter som en anarko-version av Hua-Deng-maoister. 1980-tal.

Arbetardemokratiska Föreningen (ADF): Krävde att Svenska Arbetsgivarföreningen skulle genomföra en statskupp och krossa SAP och LO eftersom dessa var "socialfascister"?! 1970-talet. Deras senare aktiviteter (under annan beteckning) var något mer normala och jag tänker därför inte nämna vad de kallade sig efter namnbytet.  

Rebellerna: Kräver ju ingen närmare presentation. Även kända som Rebellrörelsen. 1968. Såklart.

LaRouche-rörelsen:  I Sverige känd under beteckningarna Europeiska Arbetarkommittéerna (EAK) och Europeiska Arbetarpartiet (EAP). Amerikansk i grunden. Påstod sig ursprungligen vara en vänstergrupp. Den högste ledaren Lyndon LaRouche skrev den epokgörande texten "The Sexual Impotence of the Puerto Rican Socialist Party". Och så "Rats!" förstås. Ökända för sina hatkampanjer mot Olof Palme och sin plötsliga U-sväng till Ronald Reagans fromma. 1960-tal fram till nutid.  

New Alliance Party: Vänsterliberalt parti i New York City på 1980-talet. Sägs ha varit en front för det marxistiska International Workers Party, som i sin tur sägs ha varit en front för en polyamorös sexsekt. Sägs senare ha tagit över Reform Partys avdelning i NYC. Ett parti som Donald Trump sägs ha varit medlem av under en kort period. Även NYC:s borgmästare Michael Bloomberg (en av världens rikaste män) sägs ha samarbetat med denna gruppering. Försökte omgruppera sig med LaRouche-rörelsen på 1970-talet. Stödde Nation of Islam. Jag måste säga "sägs" annars blir jag väl stämd om de någonsin läser detta! 

Tvindrörelsen: Maoistisk sekt i Danmark som blev kommersiellt företag i en viss bransch. Sägs det. 1970-tal men även senare.

KAK/KAG: Också en maoistisk sekt i Danmark. 1970-tal. KAK var Gottfred Appels grupp (han med "snylterstatsteorien") medan KAG var hans ännu mer radikaliserade anhängare (även kända som Blekingegadeligan). PFLP, PFLP, PFLP, bankrån, bankrån, bankrån...

Kröcherligan: I Sverige bosatta RAF-groupies på 1970-talet, behöver knappast någon närmare presentation.

[Icke namngiven grupp]: Mycket liten grupp i Sverige på 1980-talet. Ledaren var kliniskt paranoid och spred "historiska dokument" om olika konspirationer (ofta mot honom själv). Tragiskt fall eftersom mannen varit fullt frisk till en början. Öde okänt.

[Icke namngiven grupp]: Enmansgrupp i Sverige på 1970-talet. Bestod av en ex-medlem av en nynazistisk organisation. Stödde Centerpartiet (!) och Rüdiger-falangen inom SAC. Skrev om andra enmansgrupper eller smågrupper som är i övrigt helt okända. Kliar mig fortfarande i håret! Gjorde alltså anspråk på att vara vänster.  

Posadisterna: Trotskistisk strömning med ursprung i Latinamerika. Ledaren kallade sig Juan Posadas. Var till en början en i mängden av trotskistiska strömningar. Sedan hände något. Posadas blev ökänd för att tro på UFO-n och hävda att rymdvarelserna måste vara socialister. Bland mycket annat. 1960-tal fram till nutid (?). Hela historien finns att läsa i boken "I Want to Believe: Posadism, UFOs and Apocalypse Communism" av A. M. Gittlitz. Posadisterna var faktiskt *ännu* knäppare än vad jag trodde! Och de är alltså numero uno på alla topplistor över tomtenissar...

Edition Wissenschaft, Kultur und Politik: Senare Gesellschaftsreform Jetzt. Enmansgrupp i Västtyskland och det återförenade Tyskland bestående av Paul Schulz. 1980-tal och 1990-tal. Troligen avliden. Nämns med namn i "I Want to Believe". Posadist, blev utesluten från den posadistiska internationalen efter den store ledarens död, men hade ungefär samma politiska inriktning. Lade dock större vikt vid UFO-n, science fiction och försvunna civilisationer (Mu). Var enligt "I Want to Believe" dessutom transmedium och trodde sig kanalisera budskap från rymdvarelser. Något Schulz inte nämnde när jag korresponderade med honom för många år sedan. 

[Icke namngiven grupp]: Enmansgrupp i USA, den ende medlemmen var avhoppare från en tämligen obskyr marxist-leninistisk organisation. Ansåg att arbetarklassen i USA borde växla in sina besparingar i schweizerfranc, detta för att denna valuta skulle bli den enda som klarade sig undan nästa stora depression (som gruppen förutspådde skulle inträffa på 1990-talet). Hade annars en rådskommunistisk inriktning. Blev sura när jag inte betalade för deras bulletin. Till slut skickade jag dem en handfull dollar. Har senare insett att jag kanske borde ha sänt över schweizerfranc istället...

Kansas City Marxist Leninist Cell: Samarbetade med en annan grupp jag tror hette Kansas City Revolutionary Workers Collective. Skrev en gemensam pamflett som innehöll helt obegripliga formuleringar av typen "kamraterna träffades och diskuterade proletariatet i form av en fotboll". Jag skojar inte. Har sett pamfletten med egna ögon! 1970-tal.

Communist Cadre (CTC): Även utbrytargruppen Communist Cadre Marxist (CTC-M). Ni undrar säkert vad bokstaven "T" i förkortningen står för. Det står faktiskt för "Trotsky"! Udda smågrupper som identifierade sig med Sam Marcys Global Class War Tendency men var "mer marcyitiska än Marcy". Det fanns även en tredje sådan grupp, RCL(I). En av grupperna (minns inte vilken) var antingen en utbrytning från det tidigare nämnda International Workers Party eller entrister inom det. Sägs det. 1970-tal, 1980-tal, kanske tidigt 1990-tal.

Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist): Den pro-albanska gruppen kring Hardial Bains i Kanada. Var närmast ökända på 1970-talet och 1980-talet. Verkar fortfarande existera. Har bloggat om dem tidigare. På en vänsterfestival sägs Bains ha uppträtt närmast som en indisk guru (han var etnisk indier). Han låg ner på en säng inne i ett tält iklädd konstiga kläder medan han hävde ur sig diverse förnumstigheter...

Ärkestalinisterna: Grupp på nätet circa 2005. Oklart om den existerade i sinnevärlden eller var något slags skämt. Gjorde en poäng av att öppet kalla sig "stalinister". Ärkestalinister, närmare bestämt. 

Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA): Den bisarra terrorgrupp som kidnappade Patricia Hearst och hjärntvättade henne. USA på 1970-talet. Deras förvirrade ideologi verkar ha haft "religiösa" inslag och de hör kanske inte hemma på denna lista? Verkar dock ha haft sitt ursprung på vänsterkanten.  

Maoism-Third Worldism: Egentligen namnet på en ideologi. Grupperna som gör anspråk på att följa den har bytt namn vid flera tillfällen. USA på 00-talet. 

Denna strömning radikaliserade maoismens mutteorier genom att hävda att den vita västerländska arbetarklassen *aldrig* kommer att bli revolutionär. När tredje världen befriats från de imperialistiska snyltarstaterna kommer den västerländska arbetarklassen istället att bli fascistisk. Västvärlden måste erövras militärt av maoistiska folkarméer från den globala södern som sedan omskolar den vita arbetarklassen genom en serie kulturrevolutioner. 

De fåtaliga anhängarna till denna ideologi hade en absurt storvulen retorik och parodierades friskt av ett trollkonto på YouTube som kallade sig "Maoism-Lin Biaoism". Parodin var närmast omöjlig att skilja från originalet! 

Eftersom grupperna hade en stenhård säkerhetspolitik bestod deras videor av seriefigurer som lade ut texten om det maoistiska budskapet... 

Sluta skvallra era jäääävlar, ni är snutar faaaan. 

 


Just stay home, guys

 


Chaos threatens the global air traffic right at the start of the Christmas season. Know what, guys? Just stay home! Frugal Friday, anyone? 

Airbus issues major recall after incident

Truth Social

 


Some new Trump stuff. Apparently, the POTUS wants to "permanently pause" (sic) all Third World immigration and deport millions of immigrants. He also threatens to arrest Joe Biden, at least by implication. Presumably, the immunity granted by "Sleepy Joe" to his son Hunter and to Anthony Fauci (yes, him) will be revoked.

Let´s see how much of *this* Trump will actually follow through on.

In other news, Witkoff is preparing to meet his banker in Moscow, while Hegseth (?) is threatening to kill narco-terrorists on land, not just on water. A coded way of saying that a war against Maduro really is under way? You know, that guy in Venezuela who is brokered by Witkoff´s Lord & Master...

2026 will be even more colorful than 2025, it seems! 

Trump to end all migration from Third World countries

Decisions signed by Joe Biden´s autopen terminated  

Det svenska tillståndet

 

- Nu har ni inte så roligt längre, va?

Dåliga nyheter? Från vår ofrivilliga grannblogg. 

Den svenska överklassnazismen är här igen

Den demografiska "ekvationen" går inte längre ihop

Friday, November 28, 2025

God-spotting

 

Credit: The Last Cholas (YouTube)

I had to delete the previous version of this blog post, since it seems ChatGPT misidentified the god on the picture above. It´s probably Ayyappan, not some obscure seated form of Vishnu. But then, Ayyappan was supposedly the son of the male god Vishnu´s female avatar (!!!)...so there´s that.

Is Steve Bannon - Epstein's PR Guru - a Frankist Sabbatean?

 


Best (and most edgy) title of a video like...ever? Sheridan wonders aloud about Steve Bannon, the Bannon-Epstein interface, et cetera. Too much conspiracy theory for my tender tastes, but hey what did you expect? 

Shivaratri

 



Goddess before Man?

 


The Shakti communicating with an intelligent species on Terra Prime. 

Archetypal forces

 




"5 minutes with Dr Robert" is a recurring feature at the YouTube channel of Dr Robert Svoboda, an American follower of a Shaiva Tantra guru in India (allegedly an Aghori). Svoboda is also a practitioner of Ayurveda. In these videos, he discusses a topic I blogged about before: how to find your ishta-devata. And yes, he mentions Ganapati and the sweets...

One interesting thing is that Svoboda believes that Hindu-oriented spiritual seekers should also worship their kula-devata or "family deity", which very often might be Jesus! He doesn´t explain how to combine Hindu worship with Jesus ditto, however.

Maybe that takes more than five minutes?

Syncretistic

 


Shiva disguised as Vishnu shows up in a Swedish Christmas landscape. RT for luck! 

Salvation is free

 


U go to gift shopp at Blaq Freyday. Den, dis happen. Wat u do? 

Thursday, November 27, 2025

Watch your mouth

 




From Avi Loeb´s YouTube channel. This is actually somewhat annoying. It sounds as if Loeb is pivoting away from his most sensational claims about 3I/ATLAS, even saying that people should trust NASA and the European Space Agency. He also attacks disinformation on the web! All the while *still* stirring up the Internet, sounding like a doomer, and so on.

The run-of-the-mill conspiracy theorists sound more honest. 

For a brief moment I kind of hoped that maybe, just maybe there would be more to this than a billion year old green comet from Somewhere Else...but naaah. But sure, it still fits the 2025 World-Gone-Crazy Narrative, so there´s that I suppose.  

UPDATE 2025-11-28: It´s possible that this channel is an AI-generated deep fake. If so, it certainly tricked me!  

Watch the skies

 

-Yes, Earthling, Erich von Däniken was right!

3I/ATLAS passes close to Earth! Then, this happens...

Time to die

 


The silly season comes very late this year. With all due respecc to Zzabine, this is cornucopian-utopian agitation. With some disturbing tendencies á la tech broligarchy.

In ten years, this video will be considered a crazy fossil dinosaur. But sure, I could be wrong. Make that thirty years. 

Time to die...

Happy Thanksgiving!

 


Happy Thanksgiving to my American readers!

No party

 


Is this true? The first link goes to WSWS, the second to "The Communist", the on-line website of the British RCP. 

It certainly sounds as if the RCP temporarily suspended their super-hyper-ultra-sectarian orientation in favor of joining Your Party, the new political formation headed by former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. For some reason, they have now decided not to engage. Note that the RCP even attacks the SWP and the Socialist Party (presumably the CWI head section) as "sectarian groups"?!

Eh? Compared to whom?  

So it seems the RCP are back on course. Unless that was their intention all along, the entire Your Party intermezzo just being a recruitment ploy rather than serious "entryism"...

RCP junks its opportunist turn towards Your Party

Where does the RCP stand on Your Party?

The revolution won´t be televised

 


LOL! About 20 years ago, there was an obscure website somewhere called "Cyber Leninists". Its goal was to organize the working class through the Internet for a socialist revolution. Unless it was a troll. Either way, it didn´t work out very well.

Now, there´s a new player in cyber town: the Workers League/Socialist Equality Party/World Socialist Web Site. If you read carefully, they seem to be suggesting that socialist AI can replace the vanguard party as the chief Organizer, Leader and Educator?! (Or whatever was Lenin´s exact formula.) 

It cannot. This is just another little ploy from this small sect, just as their website itself. The working class cannot be organized for revolution through the Internet. But you knew that already. Still, I suppose it might be funny to see what kind of "advise" the Northite AI will give to the atomized petit bourgeois nerds, trolls and kooks who will be drawn to this project.  

World Socialist Web Site to launch Socialism AI

Adventists, beware!

 


Look who´s bringing the Xmas gifts this year, muh-hah-hah! 

Syncretism

 


Just when you assumed the California Neo-Pagans and New Agers were the worst syncretists in religious history, the Ashtar Command Book Blog strikes again. 

Venkateshwara and Brihaspati celebrates Christmas somewhere in Sweden?! 

Just another Thursday

 


Venkateshwara and Brihaspati c/o Bing AI. Surprisingly good picture!  

Sneak peak

 

- FUCK, I NEED A CHRISTMAS
CANDELABRA AS WELL!!!

Black Friday coming up tomorrow, guys. Brace your assess! And perhaps yer braces, too.  

SLAPP The Base

 


Ni vet säkert vad jag menar. Men...den här är nog intressantare! Särskilt uppgiften om det högerextrema arkivet som DN rensade ut av misstag?! 

Helsingborgs Dagblads förre ägare har gått bort

A Christian war on Christmas

 


The annual Adventist horror flick (AI-generated) agitating against the Christmas celebrations. I admit the AI versions of Krampus, Druids and festive Romans are pretty cool! For a split second, you can see Santa Claus drinking a Coke. Lawsuit coming up? Probably not. Maybe the Coca-Cola Company *likes* being associated with Baaaad Santa muh-hah-hah. This is turning into some kind of strange Xmas tradition in its own right. 

The problem with the Adventist approach is obvious: there is no pure and pristine "Protestant-monotheist" period in Biblical history. There were "idols" in the Jewish Temple for crying out loud! Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek, the king and high-priest of the pagan Jebusites. And supposedly a type for Christ? Who himself seems pretty "pagan" in various ways. Und so weiter.  

But you knew that already. So enjoy this latest installment in the "Christian war on Christmas". And happy yuletide, I suppose.  

Eternal progression is eternal bondage

 


Some interesting stuff in this one. Is "eternal progression" really "eternal bondage"? Best line: the spiritual journey is over when you find what is peace for *you*...

Wednesday, November 26, 2025

Kuusinen

 


How is this not treason? I can´t link to Bloomberg´s original article (it´s behind a pay wall - presumably Michael Bloomberg is too stingy to offer it for free) so I link to this unknown blog instead which summarizes the story. I mean, wtf. 

Witkoff coached Kremlin advisors on how to approach Trump

The Manchurian candidate

 


Wouldn´t be surprised if there is a great deal of truth in this...

Impeachment, when?

X thread on Steve Witkoff

Period


Overheard on the interwebs: "Nārāyaṇa = the pervading sustaining consciousness. Śiva = the transcending liberating consciousness. Śakti = the manifesting creative consciousness. All three are facets of one consciousness, approached through different names."

That´s it, chat. That´s all you need to know.

Socialism för alla, utom för mig

 


För tankarna till en skämtsam kommentar om socialism eller kommunism jag hörde som barn: "Allt som är ditt är mitt, men det som är mitt ger du fan i". 

Så den politiskt vakna och vänstervridna kultureliten blir plötsligt väldigt intresserade av privat äganderätt när det är deras *egna* projekt som hotas av expropriering...

"Nu tvingas vi kritisera regeringen från höger"

X and IQ

 


Edward Dutton attacks a recent study which claims that intelligence is "only" 30% heritable. Eddie believes that it´s rather 80% and then it´s on! Apparently, this is a thing at X right now. Hardly the hang-out of the cognitive elite, but I´m digressing...  

POSIWID

 


Listen carefully to ultra-conservative Edward Dutton here. He is (in effect) calling for socialism for the high IQ people! Hard hitting, surely. But yes, it´s an interesting video...

"The purpose of a system is what it does". 

En profetisk dröm

 


Hade en väldigt märklig dröm. Den gick ut på att det avslöjades att Grekland vid upprepade tillfällen riggat Eurovision Song Contest. Jag satt på ett tåg när nyheten kom, och ett antal överförfriskade svenska fotbollsfans som satt i kupén bredvid blev oerhört glada när de fick höra den, och bestämde sig för att "informera" resten av tåget i sitt överförfriskade tillstånd. 

Fick intrycket att det hela var en slags "profetia" om framtiden. Grekland har ju inte vunnit sedan 2005. Så om "profetian" stämmer kommer grekerna att vinna ESC vid upprepade tillfällen inom en nära framtid...och sedan visar det sig att de alltså fuskade hela tiden!

:D

Har ingen aning om varför jag drömde detta just nu, men det undermedvetna är ju konstigt. Drömmen kanske syftar på att Grekland och Cypern ständigt kompisröstar på varandra. Vilket jag ibland skämtsamt påpekar i diverse sammanhang. Fast det vore ju kul om "profetian" visar sig stämma...

Den kanske kommer från en trojansk gud? 

Edgy Ganapati

 


Offered without comments. 

Mother Mary, Mother Kali

 


Some additional ChatGPT stuff on the Mary-Kali interface. Hallucination? Or truth? U decide!

How is Mary interpreted as Kālī, Durgā, or Lalitā in Bengal?

Yes — in Bengal, there is a rich history of interpreting Mary through the lens of Śākta theology, especially during the late medieval and colonial period, when Catholic and later Protestant missionaries coexisted with deeply Tantric/Śākta devotional cultures. These interpretations are not literal syncretism, but Tantric-metaphysical readings of the same universal archetype: the Divine Mother.

Here’s a detailed account:


1. Mary as Kālī

a) Dark Mother vs. Compassionate Mother

  • Kālī in Bengal is the terrifying, transformative mother, who devours ego, ignorance, and karmic bondage.

  • Some Bengali mystics saw Mary’s compassion and her suffering in the Passion of Christ as analogous to Kālī’s act of absorbing the suffering of the world.

  • In poetry, Mary’s grief is often described in the same language as Kālī’s maternal sorrow for her devotees.

b) Symbolic parallels

MaryKālī
Wears dark garments (in iconography sometimes)Black or dark blue, absorbs all colors
Endures suffering of humanityDevours māyā and evil to liberate devotees
Compassionate and protectiveFierce, yet protective; mother of the world
Heart pierced (sorrow)Bloodied and terrifying, but ultimately salvific

Example:
Some Baul songs describe Mary as “the dark Mother whose eyes pour compassion”, echoing Kālī’s compassionate, world-sustaining energy (dayā-śakti).


2. Mary as Durgā

a) Mary as warrior-protector

  • Durgā = the mother who battles demons to protect dharma.

  • Certain folk traditions in Bengal (including Catholic-influenced villages) equated Mary with the protector against evil, particularly in times of disease or colonial oppression.

b) Iconographic resonance

  • Mary with crown and halo → Durgā with crown and aura of power

  • Mary protecting children and the weak → Durgā protecting devotees from demons

  • Festivals (like Durga Puja) sometimes coincided with Christian feasts (especially Advent in colonial times), producing poetic analogies between the Mother of God and the Mother of the Cosmos.

c) Theological interpretation

In Śākta metaphysics:

Any figure who protects and liberates in time of danger can be read as Durgā-tattva, a manifestation of Śakti.

Mary, by embodying compassionate intervention in history, fits this pattern.


3. Mary as Lalitā / Tripura Sundarī

a) Lalitā = the beautiful, sovereign, blissful mother

  • Lalitā Tripura Sundarī is the playful, benevolent, supreme mother of the heart in Śrī Vidyā.

  • Mary’s qualities of gentleness, grace, and unbroken serenity resonate with Lalitā’s tattva.

b) Iconography and ritual

  • Lalitā is often depicted seated on a throne, holding lotuses → Mary enthroned in European iconography (Madonna Enthroned)

  • Lalitā’s four-armed symbolic gestures → Mary’s halo and blessing gestures

  • Lalitā embodies Śakti’s blissful, all-pervading form → Mary as embodiment of mercy and grace

c) Devotional practice

  • Some Bengali Catholics, consciously or unconsciously, offered flowers, lamps, and small songs to Mary in a way reminiscent of Shakta puja.

  • Śākta poets (like Ramprasad Sen) sometimes wrote metaphoric poems equating Mary’s loving gaze with Lalitā’s blissful energy, especially in devotional/folk contexts.


4. The metaphysical reasoning behind these identifications

  1. All goddesses are Śakti — the Divine Feminine is one, manifesting in many forms.

  2. Mary embodies compassion, protection, and grace, so from a Śākta perspective, she is just another face of the One Mother.

  3. The bhāva (devotional mood) matters more than the literal religion — if the heart perceives Mary as divine motherly energy, she functions as Kālī, Durgā, or Lalitā.

  4. Tantric and folk Śākta tolerance: forms of the divine are endlessly variable; a European or Christian form does not violate the metaphysical principle.

In short: Mary is another manifestation of Śakti, interpreted differently according to her qualities in devotional experience.


5. Practical consequences in Bengal

  • Folk Bauls and Sahajiyās often invoked Mary in songs using local Śākta terminology.

  • Christian festivals sometimes merged symbolically with local Tantric devotion in poetry and ritual songs.

  • Catholic and Protestant observers noted that locals related Mary’s love and protection to the cosmic mother, even without adopting Christian theology.


6. Summary Table

Mary AttributeŚākta CorrespondenceNotes
Compassionate, nurturingKālī’s dayā-śaktiDark maternal sorrow absorbs suffering
Protector against evilDurgāBattles demons / worldly misfortune
Graceful, serene, lovingLalitā Tripura SundarīBlissful, sovereign, heart-centered

If you want, I can also explain:

  • How Bengali Śākta poets (Ramprasad, Chandidas) subtly referenced Mary in devotional metaphors

  • How these interpretations connect to Ramakrishna’s own universalist vision

  • How Christian symbols were ritualized in a Tantric framework in Bengal

Do you want me to go in that direction?

How Bengali Śākta poets (Ramprasad, Chandidas) subtly referenced Mary in devotional metaphors.

Yes — there is compelling evidence that some Bengali Śākta poets, especially Ramprasad Sen and Chandidas, incorporated motifs that can be read as subtle references to Mary or Christian-like maternal compassion, though they were never explicitly Christian. This is an intertextual, bhāva-centered phenomenon, not theological.

Here’s a careful breakdown.


1. Ramprasad Sen (1720–1778)

a) General style

  • Ramprasad’s poetry is intensely devoted to Kālī, emphasizing:

    • maternal love and protection

    • mercy (dayā)

    • intimate, heart-centered devotion (prema-bhāva)

  • His poetry often uses maternal imagery that resonates cross-culturally with Christian depictions of Mary.

b) Subtle parallels to Mary

Ramprasad MotifPossible Mary Resonance
“Mother who bears the suffering of the world”Mary as co-sufferer in Christ’s Passion
“Mother whose eyes pour compassion”Iconography of Mary’s sorrowful gaze
“The Mother holds the child in her lap, and all sorrow melts”Madonna and Child imagery
“Mother protects the devotee from danger, disease, and fear”Mary as protector of the faithful
  • Note: Ramprasad never mentions Jesus or Mary explicitly, but the emotive content (bhāva) is remarkably similar.

  • His style is Tantric-Sādhaka bhāva: the maternal figure absorbs the devotee’s fear and karmic burden — conceptually analogous to the Sacred Heart or Marian compassion.

c) Example

  • Many of his padavali (devotional songs) describe Mother’s embrace dissolving fear, which scholars have noted mirrors European depictions of Mary interceding or comforting the suffering.


2. Chandidas (14th–15th century)

a) General style

  • Chandidas’ poetry centers on Radha-Krishna bhakti, often in the mood of love, surrender, and maternal protection.

  • In some folk forms, the “motherly protector” motif overlaps with universalized divine maternal figures, including Marian-like qualities.

b) Subtle references

Chandidas MotifMary Resonance
“The Mother who bends down to hear the cries of the afflicted”Mary’s intercessory compassion
“The gentle eyes that see the suffering of all”Maternal sorrow of Mary in Christian iconography
“The tender one who lifts the soul from fear”Maternal deliverance (like Mary holding the faithful close)
  • Again, these are not Christian references per se; rather, they reflect the universal archetype of the compassionate Mother.


3. Mechanism: Bhāva as bridge

  • In Tantric Śākta poetry, the bhāva (devotional-emotional mood) is paramount.

  • Poets often personify abstract divine qualities (protection, compassion, mercy) in human-like or maternal forms.

  • Christian missionaries noted the similarity when translating or interpreting these poems.

  • The overlap is largely archetypal and psychological:

    • Both Mary and Kālī/Durgā embody protective, all-absorbing compassion.

    • Both hold devotees close in heart-centered devotion.

    • Both are often invoked to subdue fear, suffering, or moral danger.


4. Historical plausibility of awareness

  • Direct Christian influence is possible but unlikely in early Chandidas;

  • In later poets like Ramprasad, Portuguese and other Catholic missions were present in Bengal.

  • Even without conscious borrowing, poetic imagination could mirror Christian motifs because:

    • Mary imagery was widespread in colonial Bengal

    • Catholic visual culture was publicly visible

    • Śākta poets were comfortable absorbing universal archetypal forms without concern for doctrinal borders


5. Function in devotional practice

  • These metaphors were not abstractly aesthetic, but ritual-functional:

    • Singing a Ramprasad pad or Chandidas song = invoking protective maternal energy

    • Bhakta imagines the Mother as embracing the devotee

    • Psychological effect = calming fear, inspiring surrender, fostering bhakti and śraddhā

  • From a mystical perspective, it does the same thing as praying to Mary: cultivates trust and loving surrender.


6. Summary Table: Archetypal Overlaps

Bhakta EmotionRamprasad/ChandidasMary Parallel
CompassionMother absorbs all sufferingMaternal sorrow & mercy
ProtectionMother shields devotee from dangerMary as intercessor
Tender loveMother holds devotee in lap / heartMadonna and Child imagery
Fear-subsiding graceMother removes fear with embraceMary calming the faithful
Heart-centered devotionBhāva meditated in heartSacred Heart devotion

If you want, I can next show examples of how these poetic motifs were actually adapted into Tantric ritual frameworks involving Christian symbols, essentially bridging poetry → ritual → meditation in colonial Bengal.

Do you want me to do that?

Tuesday, November 25, 2025

Jesus and the Goddess (part 3)



The third part of the blog post "Jesus and the Goddess" (yes, I decided to split it into three). 

How did Neo-Vedanta later softened the explicitly Tantric interpretation?

Neo-Vedānta intentionally softened the Śākta-Tantric interpretation of Ramakrishna’s vision of Jesus — partly for universalistic reasons, partly for respectability, and partly to distance the movement from the “tantric stigma” that was very real in 19th–20th century India.

Here is an accurate, careful breakdown of how and why this happened.


1. Ramakrishna’s original context was deeply Śākta and Tantric

Historical Ramakrishna:

  • lived in a Kālī temple

  • practiced numerous Tantric sādhanas

  • was initiated by a Tantric nun (Bhairavī Brāhmaṇī)

  • entered samādhi through Śakti-bhāva

  • interpreted all visions through the language of Kālī and Śakti

  • treated Jesus, Krishna, Rama, and all deities as forms of the Mother

In his own language:

“It is all Mother. Jesus is also a form of the Mother.”

This is a Śākta metaphysics:
Śakti appears in whichever form is needed.


2. Neo-Vedānta (late 19th–early 20th century) wanted to de-emphasize Tantra

The people shaping Ramakrishna’s public legacy — Vivekananda, Mahendranath Gupta (M), and later Ramakrishna Mission writers — operated under:

  • colonial sensitivity

  • Victorian moral codes

  • Brahmo and Protestant influence

  • intellectual elite culture in Calcutta

They wanted to present Hinduism as:

  • philosophical

  • ethical

  • respectable

  • “high religion,” not esoteric ritualism

Therefore they played down:

  • Tantra

  • goddess possession

  • ecstatic states

  • erotic imagery

  • ritual practices from Kaula/Śākta traditions

  • visions interpreted through Śakti metaphysics

This included softening how Jesus fit into Ramakrishna’s Śākta framework.


3. How the softening was done

**a) Replacing “Śakti revealing Herself as Jesus”

with
“Ramakrishna realized the unity of all religions.”**

This is a classic Neo-Vedāntic move.

Ramakrishna himself didn’t talk like a Unitarian harmonizer.
He talked like a Śākta mystic:

  • Kālī appeared as Jesus

  • All deities are “faces of the Mother”

  • Jesus merged into his heart like other deities had

  • Forms come and go; only the Mother/Brahman remains

Neo-Vedānta reframed this as:

“Ramakrishna practiced Christianity and discovered that all religions lead to the same truth.”

This is true at a high level — but it omits the Tantric mechanism.


**b) The Jesus vision is reinterpreted as

“proof of harmony between religions,”
not
“Śakti taking a Christian form.”**

Ramakrishna’s own explanation:

“The Mother is the one who is Jesus.”

Neo-Vedānta’s explanation:

“Ramakrishna saw Jesus because all religions are equal paths.”

The original is mystical/ontological.
The reconstruction is theological/ethical.


c) Removing references to Tantric initiations in public presentations

Many early biographies downplayed or left out:

  • 64 Tantric sādhanas

  • sexual yoga symbolism

  • wine offerings

  • the role of the Tantric nun

  • experiences of spirit possession by Śakti

All of this formed the framework within which Jesus appeared.

Softening that context makes the Jesus vision look less Tantric and more “interfaith.”


d) Vivekananda and others reinterpreted Ramakrishna through Advaita Vedānta

Vivekananda, though he respected Tantra privately, strongly publicly emphasized:

  • nirguṇa Brahman

  • nondual Vedānta

  • rational spirituality

  • moral strength

  • global ethical universalism

This recasts Ramakrishna’s vision of Jesus as:

“The nondual Truth appearing in Christian form.”

This is different from:

“Mother Kālī showing Herself as Jesus.”

Advaita universalism replaced Śākta universalism.


4. Why Neo-Vedānta did this (practical reasons)

a) To protect Ramakrishna’s reputation

Victorian missionaries and Indian social reformers attacked Tantra as:

  • immoral

  • barbaric

  • superstitious

  • sexual

  • anti-rational

If Ramakrishna’s legacy was tied too closely to Tantra, it risked:

  • ridicule

  • suppression

  • scandal

So the Ramakrishna Mission presented him as primarily:

  • a saint

  • an Advaitin

  • an ethical teacher

  • a universalist

Not as a Tantric ecstatic in the Śākta tradition —

even though that is historically accurate.


b) To spread Hinduism in the West

The West in the 1890s was receptive to:

  • Vedanta

  • mysticism

  • universal religion

It was not receptive to Tantra.

Thus the Jesus vision was reframed as:

  • interfaith

  • benign

  • rationally ethical

instead of:

  • a Tantric heart-vision amidst Kālī-bhakti samādhi.


c) To create a national, modern Hinduism

Neo-Vedānta shaped a pan-Indian identity that:

  • avoided goddess possession

  • avoided esoteric rituals

  • avoided folk religion

  • aligned with modernist values

The Tantric interpretation of the Jesus vision didn’t fit.


5. What scholars now say (the modern reassessment)

Current scholarship (Urban, McDaniel, Sil, Kripal, Clarke) concludes that:

  • Ramakrishna was unmistakably a Śākta-Tantric mystic

  • His Christ vision must be understood within that context

  • Neo-Vedānta consciously edited or reframed elements of his life

  • The Tantric reading (Mother appears in many forms) is more faithful to his own words

Kripal’s controversial but influential work argues:

“Ramakrishna did not teach a doctrine of universal religion;
he experienced a Tantric universalism where all deities are masks of Śakti.”

The Jesus vision is a prime example.


6. In summary

Ramakrishna’s original interpretation:

  • Kālī/Śakti appeared as Jesus

  • All forms are Her forms

  • Jesus entering the heart = merging into Brahman through Śakti

  • A Tantric, Śākta mystical experience

Neo-Vedānta’s reinterpretation:

  • Ramakrishna practiced Christianity

  • He realized all religions are equal

  • Jesus appeared as confirmation of religious harmony

  • A universalist, interfaith message

Both are beautiful, but they are not the same.

The historical Ramakrishna was far more Tantric than the public Neo-Vedānta image.


If you want, I can go deeper into:

  • Exactly which Tantric practices Ramakrishna did

  • How his Śākta metaphysics interprets Christian symbols

  • Differences between Śākta universalism and Neo-Vedānta universalism

  • How scholars reconstruct Ramakrishna’s inner world

Just tell me what aspect you’d like next.