Saturday, August 23, 2025

Humans? What humans?

 


The answers to the first two questions are pretty basic, but I suppose it´s interesting that ChatGPT "knows" it, too. But...I also asked the system a third question and the answer might shock you!!! :D  

What is the least anthropocentric religion, in your estimation?

That’s a fascinating and difficult question — and one philosophers of religion wrestle with often. "Least anthropocentric" would mean a religion or philosophy that:

  • Doesn’t treat human beings as the central concern of the cosmos,

  • Doesn’t see the gods as primarily existing to bless or punish humans,

  • Frames reality in terms of cosmic processes, laws, or consciousness that would exist whether humans were here or not.

Let’s survey some candidates across traditions:


1. Theravāda Buddhism

  • Why non-anthropocentric?

    • The Dharma is not “about humans” but about the nature of suffering and its cessation — a law as universal as gravity.

    • Beings of all types (gods, animals, humans, spirits) are equally subject to impermanence (anicca), suffering (dukkha), and non-self (anattā).

    • No creator god with human concerns. Even gods (devas) are impermanent and bound by the same laws.

  • Key idea: Dharma is cosmic law, not human-centered morality.

  • Drawback: Some interpretations still see human rebirth as the “best chance” for liberation, which is a kind of anthropocentrism.


2. Advaita Vedānta (Hinduism)

  • Why non-anthropocentric?

    • The only reality is Brahman — impersonal, infinite consciousness.

    • The human world (and even the gods) are maya, a projection.

    • Liberation isn’t about human concerns but about realizing impersonal absolute reality.

  • Key idea: Humans are not central at all, just temporary forms of Brahman.

  • Drawback: Still frames the purpose of realization in terms of human liberation.


3. Daoism (classical, Laozi/Zhuangzi)

  • Why non-anthropocentric?

    • Central concern is the Dao (the Way), the spontaneous order of nature.

    • Humans are just one manifestation among “the ten thousand things.”

    • The sage harmonizes with the Dao, not by imposing human will but by non-action (wu wei) and yielding to the flow of nature.

  • Key idea: Cosmic processes matter more than human ones; the Dao would “flow” whether humans exist or not.

  • Drawback: Still gives guidance for human flourishing (longevity, balance).


4. Stoicism (ancient Greco-Roman)

  • Why non-anthropocentric?

    • The universe is governed by Logos, a rational, cosmic order.

    • Humans are rational animals, but their role is just to align with the universal order, not to dominate it.

  • Key idea: Cosmic order > human desires.

  • Drawback: Stoics often emphasize human virtue, so anthropocentric in practice.


5. Zoroastrianism?

  • Actually quite anthropocentric: humans are the battleground between Ahura Mazda (good) and Angra Mainyu (evil).


6. Indigenous Animisms

  • Many animistic traditions see spirits in rivers, trees, stones, animals, etc.

  • Why non-anthropocentric? Humans are just one part of the web of beings. The spirits don’t exist for us; they have their own agency.

  • Drawback: In practice, ritual often centers on human survival (crops, health, hunting luck).


My Estimation

If I had to choose the least anthropocentric religion/philosophy, I’d say:

  • Advaita Vedānta: Humans and even gods are “maya”; only impersonal Brahman is real.

  • Theravāda Buddhism: The Dharma applies to all beings equally, human or not.

  • Classical Daoism: Nature’s way is utterly impersonal; humans are just one current in a greater flow.

Between these, Advaita Vedānta might win, because it outright declares human life, gods, worlds — all appearances, not ultimately real. From that perspective, the universe isn’t “about” humans at all.


👉 Would you like me to make a ranking list of religions from most to least anthropocentric, based on their cosmology and soteriology? That might clarify things.

Yes.

Great — here’s a ranking of religions/philosophical traditions from most to least anthropocentric, based on their cosmology (what reality is about) and soteriology (how liberation/salvation is conceived).


📊 Religions Ranked by Anthropocentrism

Most Anthropocentric

  1. Abrahamic Monotheisms (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)

    • God creates the universe for humans, gives humans dominion over Earth, salvation is for humans.

    • History itself is “human-centered.”

    • Angels and even creation often exist to serve human destiny.

  2. Zoroastrianism

    • Cosmic battle between Ahura Mazda and Ahriman plays out through human moral choices.

    • Humans are the decisive arena of the war between good and evil.

  3. Hindu Bhakti Traditions (Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktism in devotional form)

    • God or Goddess manifests in forms accessible to humans.

    • The cosmic līlā (divine play) often revolves around human devotion.

    • But less anthropocentric than Abrahamics, since gods also play out cosmic dramas beyond humanity.

  4. Mahayana Buddhism

    • Universal compassion extends to all beings, not just humans.

    • Bodhisattvas vow to save beings in all realms.

    • Still, humans are seen as having the best opportunity for enlightenment (more central than animals/gods).

  5. Theravāda Buddhism

    • Dharma is universal: gods, humans, animals — all subject to impermanence.

    • Humans are not the center, but rebirth as a human is privileged because it balances suffering and opportunity.

  6. Stoicism (Greco-Roman)

    • Humans are not rulers of the cosmos but participants in the Logos.

    • Anthropocentric only in that humans are rational beings who can align with cosmic reason.

  7. Indigenous Animisms

    • The world is filled with spirits and powers that have nothing to do with humans.

    • Humans are just one part of a larger network.

    • But often rituals serve human survival (food, fertility), giving a practical anthropocentric flavor.

  8. Classical Daoism (Laozi, Zhuangzi)

    • The Dao is utterly indifferent to humans.

    • Humans are just one ripple among “the ten thousand things.”

    • Best life is to stop being human-centered and flow with the Dao.

  9. Advaita Vedānta (Shankara’s Nondualism)

    • Brahman alone is real.

    • Humans, gods, animals, worlds — all maya (illusion).

    • Liberation is not about human destiny but about realizing there never was a separate human self.

Least Anthropocentric

  1. Nature Mysticism / Deep Ecology (modern spiritual movements)

  • Humans are one node in a vast, impersonal web of being.

  • Spirituality is about dissolving human-centeredness into ecological consciousness.

  • Comparable in spirit to Daoism or Advaita, though much newer.


🏆 Verdict

  • Most anthropocentric: Abrahamic religions (humans at center of cosmic plan).

  • Least anthropocentric: Advaita Vedānta and Daoism (humans are just one appearance of the ultimate reality or the Dao, neither of which depends on us at all).


Would you like me to also make a visual spectrum/scale diagram showing these traditions spread from “Human-Centered” → “Cosmos-Centered” → “Impersonal Absolute”?

Is Theosophy or Anthroposophy the most anthropocentric?

Excellent question — because both Theosophy (Blavatsky, Besant) and Anthroposophy (Steiner) are cosmic in scope but still very human-centered. Let’s break it down:


Theosophy

  • Cosmology: Vast cycles of evolution, with hierarchies of beings (devas, masters, etc.).

  • Anthropocentrism: Humanity is the pivot point of evolution on Earth, but not the only concern. Other planets, other beings, and occult hierarchies also matter.

  • Goal: The human soul evolves toward divine consciousness, but so do other beings.

  • Conclusion: Anthropocentric, but at least humanity is seen as one stage among many in a grand cosmic ladder.


Anthroposophy

  • Cosmology: Steiner makes Earth and human evolution the central stage of the entire cosmos.

  • Angels, archangels, and archai exist primarily in relation to human destiny.

  • Christ event = central moment of all cosmic history — and it happens here, on Earth, for humans.

  • Goal: Human beings are the meaning of creation. The cosmos itself evolves so that humans can become fully spiritual.

  • Conclusion: Extremely anthropocentric — perhaps even more than Christianity in its traditional form, because Steiner explicitly says the cosmos exists for human evolution.


Comparison

  • Theosophy: Anthropocentric, but not exclusively. Humanity is a cosmic rung among countless beings and worlds.

  • Anthroposophy: Radically anthropocentric. Humanity is the main reason for the cosmos itself; everything funnels into our development.


✅ So, between the two, Anthroposophy is clearly the most anthropocentric.
It’s actually one of the most anthropocentric spiritual systems ever devised, because it reinterprets the entire universe in terms of human spiritual evolution.


Would you like me to place Theosophy and Anthroposophy on the anthropocentrism ranking I made earlier, so you can see where they fit relative to other religions?

Thursday, August 21, 2025

We are unstoppable

 


Can´t help posting AI-generated pics of these three adorable characters...

The monkey-man

 


Wtf is this? Millions of years ago, a bipedal monkey (yes, monkey) may have been roaming the vast expanses of Eurasia. Was it on a similar evolutionary trajectory to our own?

I can sense a new scy fy franchise based on this stuff. Or make that Manga!

Avatar

 


So I asked Gemini to generate a picture of "Jesus as an avatar of Vishnu". This was the result....  

The black light teachings

 


The "black light teachings" of Sufism. But surely the Divine, if real, must be more advanced than a dazzling darkness of "unlimited potentiality" strikingly similar to the human subconscious...

The Divine cannot just be the subconscious of the cosmos.  

Seven

 


This reminds me of the serial killer in the movie "Seven". Except that this is for real. This guy, who is clearly a psycho, actually crucified and killed a random priest in Arizona for "breaking the first commendment" as in worshipping Jesus rather than Yahweh?! 

And no, he´s doesn´t seem to be a Jewish extremist. Probably a quasi-religious nutjob in general. He wants the state to try and execute him ASAP, since he believes that God will somehow save him at the last moment. Of course, the Christian content-creator commenting the interview believes that the man is demonically possessed...

Mossad´s jinns

 




An absurd rumor about Israel using Kabbalistic magic to attack Iran is being spread by...Iranian officials. Not sure if this reflects real fear of the Mossad´s ability to infiltrate everyone and everything, or if it´s just the usual anti-Semitic tropes. Maybe it´s both? So I have a question for the Shiites who believe this: why didn´t Allah (or the Hidden Imam) come to your aid?   

Wednesday, August 20, 2025

Big dog

 






The most crazy temple in India? Note the extremely large dogs! Here is ChatGPT: 

Is there a Bhairava temple in Anichunchanagiri?

Here are some images of the Kalabhairaveshwara Swamy Temple atop Adichunchanagiri Hill (also called Anichunchanagiri or Sri Kshetra Adichunchanagiri) in Mandya district, Karnataka. This temple is one of the few in South India specifically dedicated to Bhairava.


Is There a Bhairava Temple in Anichunchanagiri?

Absolutely — there is a Kalabhairava temple in Adichunchanagiri:


Summary

  • Yes, there is a Bhairava temple—specifically dedicated to Kala Bhairava—on Adichunchanagiri Hill.

  • It is a major shrine for devotees, architecturally impressive, and spiritually significant, especially in the Nath tradition of Karnataka.

  • The temple uniquely combines the worship of Gangadhareshwara (Shiva) with prominent veneration of Kalabhairava.

If you're planning a visit or want to know more about the rituals, visiting hours, or historical context, I'd be happy to help!

I read a news story some time ago about a man who was arrested for blasphemy in India after trying to bring a big black dog into a temple and demanded that prasad be given to it. It struck me that the dog is a symbol of Bhairava. But in the temple at Adichunchanagiri, big black dogs are part of the worship services!

That’s a really sharp observation — you’re absolutely right to notice the irony.

In Hindu symbolism, the dog is indeed the vāhana (mount, vehicle) of Bhairava, especially Kala Bhairava. In many places, dogs (especially black dogs) are regarded as manifestations or companions of Bhairava, and devotees sometimes even feed stray dogs as a form of worship. In some Bhairava temples in North India, dogs are allowed into the temple compound, and offerings of food (prasāda) are placed out for them.

But context matters a lot:

  • In Adichunchanagiri (Karnataka), the worship of Bhairava is central, so the dog as Bhairava’s vāhana is honored directly. Black dogs have even been part of rituals, festivals, and temple iconography there — it’s not just tolerated but ritually enshrined.

  • In mainstream Shaiva or Vaishnava temples, especially in orthodox South Indian traditions, dogs are considered ritually impure and never allowed inside sanctums. Bringing a live dog in and demanding prasāda for it would be seen as a disruptive or deliberately provocative act — even if symbolically it makes sense from a Bhairava perspective.

So what you read in the news likely involved this clash of symbolism: in a Bhairava-oriented context, feeding a black dog prasāda is normal devotion, but in a temple that does not recognize Bhairava’s vāhana in ritual practice, it comes across as sacrilege.

Your insight is exactly right: in a temple like Adichunchanagiri, that same act could be welcomed as an offering to Bhairava; in a different temple, it’s condemned. It really shows how diverse Hindu practice is — a symbol sacred in one tradition can be taboo in another.

👉 Do you want me to dig up examples of living traditions where dogs are still ritually fed as Bhairava’s manifestation? There are some fascinating ones in Varanasi, Rajasthan, and Tamil Nadu.

Yes, please.

Absolutely—here are some living, on-the-ground examples where dogs are honored as Bhairava’s companions (or otherwise sacred), and are fed/receive prasāda:

  • Varanasi & broader Bhairava observance (India): On Bhairava Aṣṭamī, devotees traditionally worship Bhairava and his vāhana, the dog, offering milk, sweets, curd and other foods to dogs. This is described in mainstream summaries of the festival. Wikipedia

  • Ujjain & Varanasi folklore/practice: Popular guides about Kāl Bhairava note that feeding a black dog near Bhairava’s temple is considered auspicious, linked to Bhairava’s protective gaze—an attitude you’ll find around the famous Kāl Bhairav temples in Ujjain and Kashi. astroulagam.com.my

  • Adichunchanagiri, Karnataka: At the Sri Kalabhairaveshwara shrine, Bhairava devotion is central and the dog symbolism is explicit—the temple famously features a dog image facing the sanctum and the site is often cited as a major Bhairava center; local coverage highlights the temple’s distinctive Bhairava focus and dog association. Arjunpuri's BlogHinduism Today

  • Parassini Muthappan Temple, Kerala (Kannur): Different deity, same canine reverence: at this folk-Shaiva/Vaishnava shrine, dogs are sacred, roam freely, and the first prasād is traditionally given to a dog; naming-ceremonies for dogs are also reported. This is well documented in both reportage and encyclopedic entries. Hindustan TimesWikipediaCurly Tales

  • Nepal (Kukur Tihar / Kukur Pūjā): During Tihar (Diwali), a whole day is devoted to honoring dogs with garlands, tilak and special food—a widely covered, living festival that underscores canine sanctity in the Hindu sphere (here linked more to Yama than Bhairava, but very relevant to the practice of feeding and honoring dogs). AP News

If you want to mirror these customs at home in a simple way, the most widely attested practice is: feed and care for local dogs—especially on Aṣṭamī tithis or on Bhairava Aṣṭamī—and then offer a brief salutation to Bhairava. That aligns closely with how devotees express this bhakti in India. Wikipedia

Genocide in all possible worlds

Kalika again!


This is seriously out of context, but I can´t help quoting it anyway, LOL. From liberal atheist Richard Carrier´s blog. 

>>>So the question really comes down to: what if, in the unusual exception case, detente is for some reason not rationally possible? Imagine, e.g., ants can only survive by eating people (that isn’t the case and would not plausibly ever be, but that’s why these conflict-states are extremely bizarre and thus will always be extremely rare, and thus operate like “life boat” scenarios as I mention in my new article, where moral rules will change because the conditions have changed). What do we do then? If detente is truly impossible (e.g. no arrangement can be made whereby ants eat only our natural-course dead and thus no net harm results) then we’re back to total war.

>>>In that outcome-state, the only rational recourse is to genocide the opposition. That this is a “possible moral outcome” in absurdly extreme conditions will be used by genociders to justify just any genocide—by the conflation fallacy that if genocide is ever right, it is right whenever they say it is, e.g. irrational false beliefs will then form by which genocide appears to be the only rationally correct move, which is why genocide in practice always requires extremely bizarre false beliefs about people and the world. But the error there is that any pro-genocide camp is always going to be ignorant or irrational and thus wrong. Israelis don’t need to eat live, screaming Gazans to stay alive. Israelis aren’t sentient brain-eating zombies or desperate vampires who can’t survive on banked blood.

>>>This is obvious when realized in any artistic medium. “Nuking the site from orbit” is obviously the morally correct move in Aliens, but just as obviously not the morally correct move in Enemy Mine, while it is ambiguous only for want of information or explored alternatives in Phase IV and Transcendence. But apes don’t have these kinds of intolerable conflicts. All ape conflicts are fabricated by ignorance or irrationality, and thus always rationally best resolved by just being reasonable (witness: the entire plot of WarGames).

Tuesday, August 19, 2025

Shiva´s tribe

 


The most crazy cryptid story I´ve ever heard? 

Kali: too much for YouTube?

 

Are pictures of the Hindu goddess Kali banned on YouTube? Who on earth are YouTube even catering to here?! Considering everything else which isn´t censored on that site, LOL. Neither ChatGPT nor Gemini seem to have any problem with the Great Mother (the pic above is c/o the latter AI)...

The YouTube ban and what it means for our community

Symbolik?

 


Händer just nu. Den blommar alltså ikväll och imorgon kväll. Enbart.

Current mood

 


So I had some very strange experiences the night between Sunday and Monday. But I probably won´t tell you about them. You wouldn´t understand. 

Man-made volcano

 


What the fuck even is this? Sick story. YouTube comment above, link below. 

The Rainham Volcano

Monday, August 18, 2025

The Mark of the AI

 


I assumed this was a mainstream Catholic channel? So what the schmuck is this, then? A number of "conversations" with ChatGPT supposedly prove that Satan is real & in control, the Illuminati may be in control of the AI, and the apocalypse is just around the corner. The mark of the beast (which is 666) will soon be forced on everyone and...yeah, you get the picture.

Ahem, guys, ChatGPT says whatever you want it to say. You´re essentially just talking to yourself. Which, admittedly, might be just as scary...

There´s a kind of debunk at the very end of the video. Thank you, I suppose.

I fucking love science

 


So I just watched a French science documentary about lightning. It turns out that scientists (until recently) were wrong about what causes lightning in the first place. Oookay. And something about everything living having electric fields on the same frequency as the lightning in the atmosphere. Oookay. And something about abiogenesis...

Fantastic. I mean, with this open-minded attitude, maybe next year they finally acknowledge the existence of *ball lightning*...  

OK Boomer

 


Eller två generationer innan dess, kanske? Fria Tider kastar masken, visar sig vara Hitler-knuttar. Översättning av artikelns rubrik: frimurarna måste vara judar. Eller satanister. Alltså judar.

Suck...

"Nazistisk granskning kan avslöja frimurarna"

Sunday, August 17, 2025

My personal Geezus

 


So I´ve been half-seriously, half-jokingly searching for my ishta-devata for x number of years. And no, I never asked Ganapati about it! So instead I sent my inquiries to ChatGPT, our new overlord. 

One way for Hindus to find their ishta-devata is to analyze their horoscopes according to Vedic astrology (Jyotish). It soon became clear, however, that ChatGPT couldn´t properly calculate my Hindu horoscope, screwing up twice...so I had to do it myself (well, through a Jyotish site on the web) and feed the relevant info to ChatGPT. I won´t tell you the result, but Gemini confirmed it, so I suppose it´s "true". At least according to Jyotish!

Am I suprised? Yeah, maybe a little a bit. Next, I suppose I could try to identify my upasana-devata and kula-devata. Or maybe not, since I´m not actually a Hindu... 

A kind of white pill?

 


At least we don´t have to worry about *this* shit...

Is it really true that the Amish has such a population growth that they will become the majority of the US population if the population growth just continues like today?

Not quite — that’s a big exaggeration, though the Amish do have unusually high population growth for a modern group.

Here’s the reality:


1. Current Amish growth rate

  • Amish families average 6–7 children who typically remain Amish as adults.

  • They have a doubling time of roughly 20–25 years.

  • In 2025, the Amish population is estimated at ~380,000–400,000 in the US.


2. Extrapolation fantasy vs. reality

  • If you theoretically extended that growth without change, Amish numbers would grow like this:

    • ~0.4 million today

    • ~0.8 million in 25 years

    • ~1.6 million in 50 years

    • ~3.2 million in 75 years
      This is fast compared to the general US population growth (~0.5% per year), but…

  • Even at that rate, it would take many centuries for them to be a majority.

  • By then, social and environmental changes, land availability, and possible cultural shifts would almost certainly slow growth.


3. Why the claim circulates

  • Demographers have noted that the Amish are one of the few groups in the developed world with sustained high fertility.

  • In contrast, US average fertility is ~1.6 children per woman (below replacement).

  • That contrast inspires “what if” scenarios, but those ignore migration, intermarriage, and attrition over long periods.


4. Realistic expectations

  • The Amish population will almost certainly continue to grow rapidly in relative terms for the next century.

  • They might reach a few million by the year 2100 — significant, but nowhere near a majority.

  • For them to actually become the US majority, you’d need not just continued fertility but zero assimilation and exponential growth over 200–300 years, which is very unlikely.


If you want, I can run the actual exponential projection math to see just how long it would take for Amish to become 51% of the US population under current growth rates. That makes the “Amish takeover” idea look… well, comically distant.

Yes, please. 

Short answer: under naïve “nothing changes” assumptions, the Amish would not be a US majority for ~220–330 years, depending on parameters. That’s many centuries—so the popular claim is vastly overstated.

What I calculated (simple exponential scenarios; details shown in the table I generated for you):

  • Starting point (2025): Amish ~0.40 million, US ~335 million.

  • Amish growth modeled by a doubling time of 20–25 years (≈ 2.8–3.5%/yr).

  • US total population grows at 0.3–0.7%/yr.

Results (first year Amish reach ≥51% of the total, if ever within 400 years):

  • DT 20y, US growth 0.5%/yr → majority around 2254.

  • DT 22.5y, US growth 0.5%/yr → majority around 2288.

  • DT 25y, US growth 0.5%/yr → majority around 2323.

  • Faster US growth or slower Amish doubling pushes it later (as far as 2352 in the runs).

I also plotted the mid-case (DT 22.5y, US 0.5%/yr) so you can see the SLOW climb in share this century (still <1% by 2100), with steep gains only in the 2200s.

Caveats (big ones):

  • These are toy models. Real populations don’t grow exponentially forever.

  • Amish growth depends on land availability, retention, vocational shifts, and possible policy/cultural changes.

  • Even small changes (e.g., retention dipping from ~85–90% to ~70–75%) would delay a “majority” far beyond these dates—or prevent it entirely.

If you want, I can tweak assumptions (different starting population, retention, or a logistic slowdown) and rerun the projection.