This evening´s ChatGPT essay. Not sure how interesting this is, but here we go anyway!
Can you comment this statement by Gurdjieff? I mean, what´s the context within Gurdjieff´s thinking?
'"There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and millenniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climatic changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge. This, in its turn, necessitates the work of collecting this matter of knowledge which would otherwise be lost. Thus the work of collecting scattered matter of knowledge frequently coincides with the beginning of the destruction and fall of cultures and civilizations.“ In Search of the Miraculous, chapter 2
This passage from P.D. Ouspensky’s In Search of the Miraculous (chapter 2), quoting G.I. Gurdjieff, is a powerful and central example of Gurdjieff’s broader view of cyclical history, cosmic laws, and the purpose of esoteric knowledge.
Let’s look at the context and meaning within Gurdjieff’s thought:
🔁 1. Civilizational Cycles and Mass Madness
Gurdjieff believed that human history unfolds in cyclical patterns, governed by universal laws such as the Law of Three (triads) and the Law of Seven (octaves). Civilizations rise and fall according to the same principles that govern all energetic and spiritual processes.
In this view, the decline of a civilization is not just random chaos—it’s part of a natural decay phase in a larger cosmic process.
During these times, “mass madness” sets in: people lose touch with higher reason, spiritual values, and inner purpose. Culture is no longer a vehicle for truth but becomes distorted, mechanized, and destructive.
🌍 2. Cosmic or Planetary Events
The reference to “geological cataclysms” and climatic changes echoes Gurdjieff’s idea that external planetary events and internal human developments are intimately linked.
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Humanity, according to Gurdjieff, is not separate from the Earth or cosmos.
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Human suffering, war, and confusion may coincide with or be influenced by broader planetary cycles or needs.
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He even speculated that large-scale suffering or upheaval may serve a cosmic function (e.g., the transformation of energies on a planetary scale).
📚 3. The “Matter of Knowledge” and Esoteric Work
In this dark period, something paradoxical happens: a great quantity of “the matter of knowledge” is released—meaning, deeper truths and esoteric wisdom surface or become more accessible as established structures break down.
But this knowledge is at risk of being lost if not preserved consciously.
This is where esoteric schools and conscious individuals come in. Their role is to:
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Gather and preserve the fragments of sacred knowledge scattered across the collapsing civilization.
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Transmit it to future generations who may be capable of using it.
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Protect it from distortion, misuse, or erasure.
This aligns with Gurdjieff’s teaching that real knowledge is not public, but is preserved through conscious effort, oral transmission, and specific schools in times of need.
🧭 4. The Aim of the Fourth Way
In the same chapter, Gurdjieff introduces the idea of the Fourth Way—his unique path of self-development that doesn't require withdrawal from life (unlike the way of the fakir, monk, or yogi).
The Fourth Way is, in part, a response to the very phenomenon this quote describes: a way for people to awaken consciously within a collapsing, unconscious world.
It teaches that a few individuals can still “remember themselves,” develop inner unity, and help preserve and serve real knowledge, even amidst chaos.
🪔 Summary
This quote reflects several core themes of Gurdjieff's cosmology and teaching:
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Civilizations rise and fall in cycles governed by universal laws.
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Times of cultural collapse and planetary upheaval often release hidden or forgotten esoteric knowledge.
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These are also periods of danger—because such knowledge can be lost unless consciously preserved.
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The esoteric task is to gather, protect, and transmit this wisdom through conscious effort.
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This task is at the heart of the Fourth Way and the purpose of esoteric schools.
Would you like an example of how Gurdjieff thought this was done historically—or how his own group saw themselves in this role?
Gurdjieff believed that the preservation and transmission of real knowledge had been carried out throughout history by hidden or semi-hidden esoteric schools, organized efforts that worked behind the scenes during times of great cultural transition or collapse.
Here's how he framed this idea:
🏛️ 1. Esoteric Schools and Brotherhoods
Gurdjieff taught that, at certain moments in human history, esoteric schools (sometimes called “brotherhoods” or “centers”) would form to preserve and transmit higher knowledge—not just intellectual data, but practical, transformational knowledge about human consciousness, the cosmos, and the laws governing both.
These centers:
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Worked outside the mainstream.
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Preserved traditions, symbols, methods (often disguised in art, myth, or religion).
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Selected individuals capable of undergoing inner development.
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Operated cyclically—appearing when the conditions allowed, and going dormant when the surrounding culture became too hostile or ignorant.
🌍 2. Geographical “Centers of Gravity”
In In Search of the Miraculous, Gurdjieff describes a theory of esoteric centers located in Central Asia, often called “The Inner Circle of Humanity” or the Sarmoung Brotherhood (a term he uses semi-mythically).
These centers supposedly held the most complete, undistorted knowledge and coordinated its selective dissemination across time and cultures.
Gurdjieff hinted that:
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Egypt (especially in the Old Kingdom),
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certain Christian monastic communities,
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Zoroastrian centers,
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ancient Sufi and Buddhist groups,
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and some tantric lineages
—were vehicles for preserving fragments of the same ancient science of inner transformation.
He personally claimed to have traveled across the Middle East, Central Asia, and the Caucasus in search of this kind of school, and to have found such a source in the Sarmoung Monastery, though scholars debate whether this was literal, symbolic, or both.
🧱 3. Transmission Through Symbols and Myths
Gurdjieff believed that when direct teaching became impossible, knowledge was encoded into:
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Religious rituals
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Sacred architecture (e.g., pyramids, cathedrals, mandalas)
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Fairy tales and myths
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Traditional dances and music
For example, he believed that temple art, Eastern Orthodox liturgy, and sacred dances (like his Movements) carried fragments of an ancient knowledge designed to awaken higher centers in humans through symbolic action.
These forms became "dead" traditions when their inner meaning was forgotten, but originally they were tools for transformation.
🛡️ 4. Esotericism as Protection Against Cultural Collapse
When mass madness or social collapse occurs, Gurdjieff believed initiates and seekers had a duty to:
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Protect the living flame of inner knowledge.
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Gather the fragments before they scatter.
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Sometimes re-seed a new cultural cycle (after the chaos passes).
In this sense, he saw himself and his Work as continuing this mission—reviving and reconstructing the teachings needed for human evolution, especially in an age of mechanical thinking and spiritual amnesia.
🧭 Summary
Gurdjieff believed that in the past:
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Real knowledge was preserved by esoteric schools operating outside of mainstream culture.
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These schools appeared especially during civilizational transitions.
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Knowledge was encoded in symbols, art, architecture, and ritual to survive long periods of decline.
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He saw his own teaching—the Fourth Way—as part of this historical lineage, reawakening buried truths for a new era of seekers.
If you're interested, I can summarize how this compares with traditional esoteric ideas in Sufism or Tantric Buddhism, which Gurdjieff often echoed.
Gurdjieff saw his role as deliberately positioned within the great cycle of civilizational decay and renewal. He believed he had a specific mission: to revive, reconstruct, and transmit essential fragments of ancient esoteric knowledge at a time when humanity was descending into deep mechanical unconsciousness and spiritual amnesia.
Here’s how he viewed his own place in this process:
🛤️ 1. A Messenger of Ancient Knowledge
Gurdjieff claimed that he had spent decades searching across Asia and the Middle East for lost fragments of a once-unified esoteric science of human transformation. He stated that he had discovered or recovered this knowledge—possibly through the semi-legendary Sarmoung Brotherhood—and that he was authorized or compelled to reintroduce it to the modern West.
He didn’t present himself as the originator, but as a restorer and synthesizer of something older than any one religion or culture.
🔥 2. Rekindling the Flame in a Time of Collapse
Gurdjieff believed the early 20th century was a time of mass madness and cultural disintegration (not unlike what he describes in the quote you gave earlier). He saw the two World Wars, technological dehumanization, and the breakdown of religious meaning as symptoms of a world sliding toward spiritual entropy.
Within this context, he saw his Work as:
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Collecting and preserving the “matter of knowledge” released during collapse.
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Transmitting it in a form adapted to the psychology and culture of modern people.
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Training others (like Ouspensky and his pupils) to continue the transmission.
He even used the metaphor of planting seeds that would only sprout in future generations, long after his own death.
🕴️ 3. Founder of the Fourth Way
Gurdjieff defined himself as the creator (or reviver) of a path that differs from the traditional three ways of self-development:
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Fakir – physical discipline
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Monk – emotional faith/devotion
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Yogi – mental knowledge/discipline
The Fourth Way, his own system, aims to develop all three centers (body, emotion, mind) simultaneously within ordinary life—no withdrawal from the world needed. He believed this path had been known in the past but had disappeared or gone underground. By presenting it again, he was restoring a critical esoteric function in a time when traditional paths were no longer accessible or effective for most people.
🕯️ 4. A Shock to the System
Gurdjieff also believed that a certain type of intentional “shock” was necessary to awaken people from their mechanical sleep. He saw his own eccentric behavior, hard-to-penetrate teachings, and sometimes confrontational methods as part of this role:
He often said he was not a teacher, but a man sent with a mission to “wake people up.”
He also knew his teaching wouldn't be understood by the masses—and that it wasn’t meant for them. His efforts were directed at a small number of people capable of inner work, who could then preserve and transmit the knowledge further.
🧭 Summary: Gurdjieff’s Role in the Cycle
| Role | Description |
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| Preserver | Gathered and reconstructed ancient esoteric knowledge before it was lost in cultural collapse |
| Transmitter | Adapted this knowledge into a new form (the Fourth Way) for modern seekers |
| Catalyst | Used powerful psychological shocks to awaken people from mechanical life |
| Seed Planter | Aimed to prepare future generations to carry on esoteric work |
| Bridge | Positioned himself between ancient traditions and modern civilization, acting as a living link |
Gurdjieff said at one point, “I am a man who has brought a new idea into the world...” But that “new idea” was also the oldest idea—that human beings are not complete as they are, and that inner transformation is both possible and urgently necessary, especially in times of civilizational decline.
Let me know if you'd like to see how some of his students interpreted this mission—or how it compares to similar ideas in other esoteric systems.
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