Some good points in this one...
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Did the US government just release files "confirming" the existence of four kinds of aliens: Insectoids, Greys, Reptilians and Nordics? All retrieved from crashed UFOs. HA HA HA. Yeah, I´m sure that´s what happened.
They aren´t aliens, bozos. They are DAKINIS. And I don´t think the CIA knows shit about them!
With all due respecc to this dude (the Catholic content-creator), why is this easier to believe if mentioned in a 2,500 year old scripture? I mean, it obviously doesn´t work, does it?
Great Tartaria and the Mud Flood is one of the silliest conspiracy theories on-line, at least in its current iteration. The whole thing looks like a conscious parody of Erich von Däniken. Maybe it *is* a next level LARP?
Däniken pointed to various ancient monuments *outside Europe* and wondered who could have built them. Aliens, maybe? The people who believe (or pretend to believe) in the Mud Flood point to modern Western architecture (sometimes as recent as the early or mid 20th century) and gasp in wonder. "Surely, only Giants could have built this?!" There is apparently a video on-line called "Tartarian Wales", which claims that the Cardiff Central Station must be the remnants of an unknown but very advanced civilization!
At the same time, there is *something* fascinating even about this utter insanity. It could be seen as a strange metaphor for the decline of modern civilization. The idea seems to be that we´re not smart enough to have built all the large buildings around us, and simply moved in when the original creators (the Giants) were wiped out in a mysterious cataclysm. Obviously, we have to deny this, claiming *we* built everything. Our entire civilization is really primitive and built on a gigantic lie - and we´re all in on it.
This is a *very* distorted picture of the true state of affairs, isn´t it? Indeed, in 200 years, maybe something like this will be un-ironic orthodoxy among the few remaining savages...
Styx says that it isn´t a great mystery why birth rates are falling. I disagree. Birth rates are falling all over the world. I assume #MeToo or feminism doesn´t exist in, say, Niger? The cause of the demographic crisis must be global. None of the factors he mentions fits the bill, not even overcrowding. Many "Third World" nations are clearly more overcrowded than the Western ones, yet their birth rates (while falling) are still above replacement level. Again: Niger.
I admit I have no idea why the birth rates are falling, including in areas where they "shouldn´t". It´s almost as if the Moon does eat people, or something.
Overheard on the interweb: "Tartaria: When modern life has black-pilled you so much that you start seeing cool architecture as wonders of a lost civilization."
| A more dramatic picture of yoginis dancing around a Shiva-linga! |
So I asked ChatGPT a more basic-basic question about the yogini-dakini situation...
Are "yoginis" and "dakinis" connected?
Yes — very much so. The concepts of:
are historically and symbolically closely related.
They emerged from overlapping tantric religious environments in medieval India and share many themes:
However, they are not exactly identical.
Very roughly:
| Tradition | Main Term |
|---|---|
| Hindu Tantra | Yoginī |
| Buddhist Tantra | Ḍākinī |
But in practice the boundaries often blur.
In Hindu tantric traditions,
a yoginī may be:
Yoginīs are often associated with:
Some traditions speak of:
64 Yoginīs
worshipped in circular temples.
In Vajrayāna Buddhism,
a ḍākinī is:
The Tibetan translation is:
khandroma
(“sky-goer” or “sky-dancer”).
Ḍākinīs are associated with:
The parallels are striking:
| Yoginī | Ḍākinī |
|---|---|
| Tantric feminine power | Tantric feminine power |
| Magical flight | Sky-going |
| Cremation grounds | Cremation grounds |
| Ecstatic spirituality | Ecstatic spirituality |
| Mantra and ritual | Mantra and ritual |
| Initiatory role | Initiatory role |
| Fierce wisdom | Fierce wisdom |
Historically,
these traditions developed in close contact.
Both yoginīs and ḍākinīs are strongly associated with:
This does not primarily mean “evil.”
Rather,
they inhabit:
liminal zones where ego dissolves.
Both figures often appear:
This symbolizes:
Medieval India saw intense interaction between:
Thus:
yoginīs and ḍākinīs influenced each other enormously.
Some scholars think Buddhist ḍākinī traditions partly developed from:
India still contains famous:
Yoginī temples
such as:
Hirapur Chausathi Yogini Temple
These circular open-air temples have strong tantric associations.
Their architecture itself feels:
Vajrayāna Buddhism transformed many yoginī-like themes into:
But Buddhism reinterpreted them through:
There are important differences:
Yoginīs are often expressions of:
Ḍākinīs are often expressions of:
But symbolically these overlap greatly.
Both traditions sometimes include:
These symbolize:
Both yoginīs and ḍākinīs may be:
The categories are fluid.
In Tibetan Buddhism,
ḍākinīs became extremely important.
Examples include:
They often function as:
Modern occultism sometimes romanticizes yoginīs and ḍākinīs as:
This captures only a small part of their symbolism.
Traditionally they are deeply connected with:
At a deeper level,
both yoginīs and ḍākinīs represent:
awakened feminine spiritual energy that breaks ordinary ego structures.
They are:
They often appear precisely where:
So the relationship can be summarized like this:
| Yoginī | Ḍākinī |
|---|---|
| Primarily Hindu tantric | Primarily Buddhist tantric |
| Linked to Shakti | Linked to Prajñā |
| Esoteric goddess/power | Wisdom-being |
| Historically older in India | Developed through Buddhist tantra |
| Strong mutual influence | Strong mutual influence |
They belong to the same broad tantric religious world of medieval India.
More on yoginis and dakinis. Fairy cult?
Could yoginis and dakinis also be seen as actual paranormal creatures, something akin to the fairy of Western folklore? There seems to be parallels to "the Wild Hunt" as well.
Yes — historically, many people in tantric South Asian traditions very likely did understand Yogini and Dakini not merely as abstract symbols, but as:
And your comparison with:
fairies,
the Wild Hunt,
nocturnal spirit hosts,
is actually quite perceptive.
There are genuine structural parallels.
Modern presentations often reduce yoginīs and ḍākinīs to:
But historically,
many tantric practitioners treated them as:
ontologically real beings.
They could:
The Tibetan term for ḍākinī:
khandroma
literally means:
“sky-goer” or “sky-dancer.”
Similarly,
Indian tantric texts sometimes describe yoginīs as:
This already sounds strikingly close to:
Tantric literature sometimes describes:
These resemble,
at least structurally:
The comparison is especially interesting because both involve:
| Wild Hunt | Yoginī/Ḍākinī Traditions |
|---|---|
| Nocturnal spirit host | Yoginī retinues |
| Dangerous liminality | Cremation-ground liminality |
| Flight through sky | Sky-going beings |
| Encounter changes fate | Initiatory encounter |
| Linked with death realm | Charnel-ground symbolism |
| Ecstatic terror | Fierce liberation |
Both traditions blur:
Yoginīs and ḍākinīs often dwell in:
This resembles how fairies or spirit hosts in European folklore inhabit:
Both yoginīs/dakinis and fairies can appear:
Encounters may:
This ambivalence is very important.
In tantric traditions,
encountering a yoginī or ḍākinī may:
Similarly,
European fairy encounters often:
Indian religions already possessed many categories of liminal beings:
Some yoginī traditions may partly descend from:
The famous:
64 Yoginīs
sometimes function less like “goddesses” in the Olympian sense,
and more like:
This is actually rather close to:
In Tibetan Buddhism,
ḍākinīs may appear:
They can:
This resembles fairy lore surprisingly strongly.
Cross-culturally,
many traditions contain beings embodying:
dangerous sacred femininity from the Otherworld.
Examples include:
These beings often combine:
One major difference is that:
Fairies in European folklore are usually:
But the experiential atmosphere can be surprisingly similar.
Some historians of religion and comparative mythologists have indeed noticed parallels between:
Though direct historical connection is unlikely,
the structural similarities are real.
From a depth-psychological viewpoint,
both yoginīs/dakinis and fairies may symbolize:
Importantly:
many traditional practitioners would probably not reduce these beings to “mere metaphors.”
They might say yoginīs and dakinis are:
That is much closer to how fairies functioned in premodern Europe.
So your intuition is well-founded.
Historically and phenomenologically,
yoginīs and ḍākinīs can indeed resemble:
especially in their roles as: