Sunday, October 4, 2026

Folklore in the making (part 2)



The Dogman inquest continues...

Are all or most Dogman reports recent (or recently retold)?

Not all—and “recently reported” versus “recently retold” is a very important distinction here.

After looking at the historical record, I would divide Dogman/upright-canine reports into several layers.

1. The specifically named “Michigan Dogman” is overwhelmingly modern

This is the weakest part of the alleged historical continuity.

The familiar Michigan chronology—1887, 1937, 1950s, 1967, 1977, 1987, etc.—looks impressively old when presented as a continuous timeline. But the crucial problem is that the pre-1987 Michigan cases don't have the kind of contemporary documentation one would want. The famous 1887 story, in particular, has not turned up in a contemporary newspaper or other independent source; it appears in the form in which we know it through the mythology surrounding Steve Cook's 1987 song.

So I would not currently regard the standard 1887→1937→1967→1987 Michigan chronology as an established historical record.

And the particularly neat pattern of years ending in 7 is even more suspect, because that was explicitly built into Cook's 1987 The Legend.

2. But reports of similar creatures definitely predate the Internet

This is where I would modify the overly skeptical conclusion.

The Beast of Bray Road is a good example. Linda Godfrey's first newspaper investigation was published in December 1991, and she subsequently said that witnesses came forward with reports going back as much as ten years, i.e. to roughly 1981. She also recorded a possibly related 1936 incident in Jefferson County, Wisconsin.

More importantly, the early Bray Road accounts weren't simply copies of the standardized modern Dogman. As we just discussed, they included:

  • large quadrupedal animals;
  • animals sitting/kneeling;
  • something that stood upright;
  • something that apparently alternated between quadrupedal and bipedal movement;
  • apparently bipedal creatures.

That makes the early Wisconsin phenomenon considerably more interesting historically than simply saying, "People started seeing Dogmen after the Michigan story."

3. There are older traditions—but they're not necessarily “Dogman”

If we broaden the question from “Dogman” to “large anomalous canine / humanoid canine”, the historical record gets much older.

There are longstanding traditions of:

  • werewolves;
  • black dogs;
  • wild men;
  • dog-headed humans/cynocephali;
  • supernatural canine guardians;
  • human-animal transformations.

But I would be very cautious about taking an old story about a werewolf or black dog and labeling it a Dogman sighting. That's retrospective classification, not historical evidence.

4. The really interesting period is roughly 1980–1995

This may be the most revealing period.

You have:

pre-1987:
some alleged upright-canine encounters, but relatively little well-preserved documentation.

1987:
Steve Cook creates the Michigan Dogman as a fictional radio legend. Listeners then begin calling him with alleged experiences, including experiences they say occurred before the broadcast.

1989–1991:
the Bray Road reports occur and are investigated contemporaneously by Linda Godfrey and Walworth County authorities. Godfrey's original 1991 reporting provides an actual paper trail.

1990s onward:
the Michigan Dogman, Beast of Bray Road, werewolves and other upright-canid reports increasingly become merged into one broad “Dogman” phenomenon.

That last stage is important. Once the Internet, books, television programs and paranormal culture start using Dogman as an umbrella term, older reports that originally described an enormous wolf, hairy humanoid, werewolf, etc., can retrospectively become “Dogman encounters.”

So are most reports recent?

If by “Dogman” you mean reports explicitly using that modern concept: yes, overwhelmingly.

If you mean reports of strange large canine-like beings, including bipedal or partly bipedal ones: no. There is a much older and broader folklore/reporting tradition.

And there's a third category that I think is particularly interesting:

Old reports that were only recognized as “Dogman” retrospectively.

Those deserve to be treated separately rather than automatically accepted or rejected.

The Bray Road material is particularly valuable because we have contemporary 1991 investigation, rather than somebody in 2010 saying, "My grandfather saw a Dogman in 1936." Godfrey says the 1991 article itself prompted people to come forward with older experiences, but that means we still have to distinguish the date of the alleged experience from the date it entered the documentary record.

So I think your instinct is right: the historical question isn't simply “Did anyone see Dogman before 1987?” but “When did reports of anomalous canine humanoids actually begin, and how much of the apparent antiquity is retrospective relabeling?”

That is a much more interesting question—and one where the evidence is surprisingly messy.

Folklore in the making (part 1)

 


So I looked into Dogman...again. It seems the skeptics are mostly right about this one. While strange reports of doglike creatures are as old as civilization, the modern Dogman seems to be a piece of emerging folklore which can be traced back to an April Fool´s Joke in 1987 (Michigan) and to Linda Godfrey´s article on the Beast of Bray Road in 1991 (Wisconsin). Godfrey´s subsequent book (published in 2003) plus the Internet popularized the Dogman and also "streamlined" him. 

Previously, there wasn´t really a single Dogman phenomenon. Now, there is. The creature is virtually always depicted as large, bipedal, intelligent, extremely dangerous and obviously canid. It´s also a flesh-and-blood creature. Finally, note the difference between Dogman and werewolves: the latter are said to be humans who can shape-shift into standard quadrupedal wolves.

Of course, a paranormal explanation is also possible, and the Dogmen would then be fairies taking whatever form we expect them to...

Can you look specifically at the earliest Bray Road reports and list what each witness actually said about whether the creature was walking on two or four legs?

Yes. I went back specifically to the earliest material, rather than relying on later Dogman summaries. The picture is actually more nuanced than I suggested before: some of the earliest Bray Road-area reports explicitly involve four-legged movement, while others involve upright movement or a transition between the two.

The most important source is Linda Godfrey's contemporary December 29, 1991 article in The Week, because it records testimony and the Humane Officer's files at the time, rather than decades later.

Earliest reports, approximately 1989–1991

Witness/reportApprox. dateWhat was actually reported about locomotion
Lorianne Endrizzi ("Barbara")1989Kneeling, not simply standing. She saw the creature beside Bray Road eating roadkill. Its knees were bent "like a human would do"; elbows were up and it held the food in its hands/paws. She did not actually describe seeing it walk on two legs.
Scott Bray~1989Reported a very large dog/wolf-like animal. Later accounts describe it principally as quadrupedal. The available contemporary 1991 article does not give a detailed locomotion account for his sighting.
Russell Gest / Heather Bowey group~1990This is particularly interesting. Heather and the other children initially thought they were looking at a large dog. It then stood up, and subsequently ran toward them "kind of like a dog," with bigger leaps. Thus this account explicitly contains both four-legged and upright behavior.
Mike Etten~1990Reported seeing a large animal sitting on its haunches, holding roadkill. This is not necessarily evidence of habitual bipedalism; the posture could be interpreted as a quadruped sitting upright.
Doris Gipson (Pat in the original article)Oct. 31, 1991Saw the creature running toward her after she got out of her car. She specifically qualified her interpretation: "you could suggest that it was on two legs," because she could see its chest so clearly. Thus probably bipedal, but she herself expressed some uncertainty.
Other reports in Jon Fredrickson's "Werewolf" filepre-Dec. 1991At least one report involved a hairy, pointed-eared creature chasing a deer on two legs. Another involved a fast "man-like" creature. These were already in the Humane Officer's files before Godfrey's article.
Robert Bushman and wifereported as 1991 in later chronologiesFour-legged animal, described as running/chasing a deer. This is consistent with the quadrupedal strand of the reports.

The Endrizzi report is especially revealing

This is the famous image that essentially became the visual prototype of the Beast of Bray Road.

Endrizzi did not see a seven-foot humanoid walking down the road.

She saw something kneeling beside the road, with its back toward her, eating something. Its elbows were raised and its claws/forepaws were turned outward. When she drove past, it turned its head toward her but didn't flee. She estimated it at about 5'7" and 150 lb.

Godfrey's original sketch consequently depicted a kneeling canine humanoid, rather than a conventional upright Dogman.

That is an important distinction.

And the children give us perhaps the clearest "shapeshifting" locomotion

The Heather Bowey account is particularly interesting because the creature apparently looked like a large dog while on four legs, then stood up, and later ran back toward the house in a dog-like manner.

Godfrey's 1991 article records Bowey saying:

"When it stood up, they looked bigger than a dog's or coyote's..."

And then:

"I looked back and saw it running toward us kind of like a dog would run but with bigger leaps."

So this isn't merely a later embellishment that somebody "couldn't tell whether it had two or four legs." The original 1991 reporting already contains an animal that alternates between the two modes of locomotion.

Gipson is somewhat different

Doris Gipson's Halloween 1991 encounter is probably the strongest early apparently bipedal report.

She saw the creature charging her after she had gotten out of her car. She could see its large, hairy chest and described its movement as extremely powerful. But importantly, she didn't say categorically, "It was running on two legs."

She said that one could suggest that it was on two legs because she could see its chest so clearly.

That's a useful piece of evidential caution that often disappears in later retellings, where the account becomes simply:

"Doris saw a seven-foot Dogman running upright."

The original account is more qualified.

So your original impression was correct

Looking specifically at the early evidence, I'd characterize the phenomenon this way:

1989–91 Bray Road reports were not consistently of a permanently bipedal humanoid.

Instead, there were several morphological/locomotive patterns:

quadruped → large wolf/dog-like animal

crouching/kneeling → Endrizzi

sitting on haunches → Etten

stands upright → Bowey group

moves on four legs, then stands → Bowey group

apparently runs upright → Gipson

explicitly runs on two legs → one of the reports in Fredrickson's file

That is considerably more interesting than the later standardized "Dogman" description.

One further wrinkle: pre-1991 reports

Godfrey herself later said that when her December 1991 article appeared, people came forward with additional accounts and told her that some sightings had occurred as much as ten years earlier. She also mentions a possibly related 1936 incident in Jefferson County, roughly 40 miles away.

So there really are two separate questions:

  1. Was the Beast of Bray Road originally reported as a biped?
    Yes, unequivocally.
  2. Was it originally reported exclusively as a bipedal Dogman?
    No. The earliest material contains a mixture of quadrupedal, crouching, sitting, transitional and apparently bipedal behavior.

And I think this is relevant to our previous discussion about the pre-1987 Dogman reports. The Bray Road material doesn't look like a simple case of people copying a pre-existing "Dogman = seven-foot wolf-man" template. The earliest witnesses were actually describing something considerably more ambiguous: a strange, unusually large canid that could apparently behave like an ordinary quadruped but sometimes adopted a remarkably human-like posture.

That makes the locomotion itself one of the most intriguing features of the case..

Touch grass, dude

 


It seems this dude is no longer a "moderate". Here, he goes all fringe, claiming that the Olmecs and other high cultures in pre-Columbian America had a selective breeding program featuring archaic species of humans (Neandertals, Denisovans, etc). The result was deformed Homo sapiens, who were venerated as gods or turned into rulers. 

Oookay. 

But sure, this *can* be empirically tested. Just show us the Neandertal and Denisovan DNA in Olmec skeletons. It has to be at least 50%. Or even 100%.

Won´t happen, of course. Next question! 

Valförlust

 


I och för sig ganska anmärkningsvärt att SD faktiskt tappade väljare till Liberalerna. Vågar man gissa att dessa personer under normala omständigheter valt att gå till Moderaterna istället? SD verkar alltså ha tappat många väljare till partiet som i fyra års tid försökt krama ihjäl SD. Vilket skulle kunna tolkas som att Ulf Kristerssons strategi varit framgångsrik. 

SD är dock fortfarande ett relativt stort parti (17,5%) så M har fortfarande en lång bit kvar till mål, om man säger så. Det är också oklart varför vissa väljare bytte parti. Tror de att M blivit genuint invandringskritiska? Eller är det SD:s Ryssland-relaterade skandaler som avgjort? Ingen aning.

Från Tobias Hübinettes blogg. 

SD tappade väljare (et cetera)

Saturday, October 3, 2026

Down and out at Kaliningrad

 


Noterar att Aftonbladets artiklar om de jättehemska, ultra-konkreta (kärnvapen)hoten från Ryssland mot Sverige är låsta. Av vilket jag drar slutsatsen att ryssen inte kommer att attackera oss. Åtminstone inte denna vecka...

Snaps med Suhonen

 


Tja, vi får väl se om den här jokern i leken har rätt även denna gång...

Anekdoten är dock intressant. På fler än ett sätt.

Hann knappt få in snapsen

Current mood

 


OK, I promise to calm down later today!

The dissolution of dissolution

 


Overheard on the interwebs:

>>>Pralayāntaka Bhairava, the Ender of Dissolution, is that which remains when even cosmic destruction ends.

>>>Pralayāntaka means "one who ends pralaya (cosmic dissolution)." This paradoxical name points to the consciousness that witnesses even the end of the universe. When everything dissolves, matter, energy, space, time, what remains? Pralayāntaka Bhairava is that ultimate witness, the awareness that observes even the dissolution of dissolution. He is the teaching that you are not what appears or disappears. You are the unchanging awareness in which appearance and disappearance occur.

>>>Pralayāntaka represents the philosophical principle of sakshi (witness consciousness). Even when the entire universe dissolves at the end of a cosmic kalpa, the witness remains. This is your true nature, not the body that was born and will die, not the mind that comes and goes, but the eternal observer that was never born and can never die.

Unable to consent

 


The British SWP on the suspected gang rape at Cornell University in the United States. What a pity the perps weren´t Hamas terrorists and the victim an Israeli woman. I mean, then the SWP could have supported the "widespread violence" in good conscience. While of course denying it ever happened. You know, a bit like the Cornell administration...

The hypocrisy of these people never ceases to amaze me. 

Cornell case exposes widespread violence at university campuses

October surprise

 


The release date for "Capturing Bigfoot" is October 20. In case you give a damn. Trust me, *many* people do. This is the documentary supposedly proving (once and for all) that the famous Patterson-Gimlin film is a hoax. That is, the best and most iconic evidence for Bigfoot´s existence. If the film falls, it´s over. Or so skeptics hope. 

The docu has already been shown on some film festivals, but the yuge public release will be in three weeks. Apparently, October 20 is the 59th anniversary of Patterson´s and Gimlin´s original encounter with the elusive beast...

Bring out the pop corn, guys.