Look what I asked ChatGPT. Heh heh heh....
That’s a fascinating thought experiment—and tricky, since it involves blending psychological profile, symbolic alignment, cultural resonance, and theological compatibility, not just political preferences.
To explore it meaningfully, let’s consider not just Donald Trump as a real person, but Trump as a symbol or archetype: brash, authoritative, image-driven, nationalistic, success-oriented, and instinctively transactional rather than contemplative.
🧠 If Trump Were to Join a Religion Based on Personality Traits:
1. Prosperity Gospel Evangelicalism
Why:
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Aligns with success, wealth-as-blessing, and image of divine favor
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Emphasizes winning, blessing, miracles, and authority
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Already has overlap with Trump’s base and rhetorical style
Representative Groups: -
Certain charismatic megachurches in the U.S.
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Televangelism culture (e.g. Paula White, whom he has worked with)
“God wants you to be rich, strong, and victorious—like me.”
2. Mormonism (LDS Church) – A Surprising Theoretical Fit
Why:
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Strong emphasis on American exceptionalism, order, family, masculinity
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Has a hierarchical priesthood structure and a history of theocratic ambition
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Values business acumen, missionary zeal, and institutional loyalty
Though Trump’s lifestyle would clash with LDS expectations, the mythos of founding a new Zion and spreading American-style virtue could be attractive.
3. Caesar-Cult Paganism / Roman Imperial Religion
Why:
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Trump as an emperor-figure: commanding loyalty, appearing godlike to followers
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Public rituals of praise, statues, and sacred legitimacy of rule
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Divine power as tied to success and spectacle, not humility or introspection
“Render unto Trump what is Trump’s.”
4. Neo-Gnostic Narcissistic Spiritualism
Why:
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Sees selfhood as ultimate authority
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Power, perception, and secret knowledge trump traditional ethics
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Compatible with conspiratorial thinking and personal mythmaking
“Only I can see the truth.”
5. A Made-Up Religion (Trumpism as Civic Cult)
Why:
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In reality, Trump already inspires religious-like devotion: rallies, slogans, icons
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Could be systematized into a civic faith with Trump as a prophetic or messianic figure
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Elements: apocalyptic enemy, purity tests, loyalty rituals, mythic past to restore
This already exists in embryonic form, with its own “canon” (tweets, slogans), saints (loyalists), and heretics (never-Trumpers).
🕍 What About Mainline Religions?
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Catholicism: Too hierarchical and self-critical for Trump’s taste; doesn't center the self enough.
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Islam: Disqualifying due to his past rhetoric, and the emphasis on submission (which contradicts his personal ethos).
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Judaism: While he’s aligned politically with some Jewish groups, especially in Israel, the introspective, legalistic, and communal nature of Judaism contrasts sharply with his brand.
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Buddhism: Almost a complete mismatch; too self-denying and inward-focused.
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Hinduism: Possible symbolic appeal if interpreted through a Kshatriya (warrior-ruler) lens, but foreign to his American-centric identity.
🔮 Summary Answer:
If Donald Trump were to sincerely join a religion or create one aligned with his archetypal self, it would likely be:
A hybrid of Prosperity Gospel Christianity, American Civil Religion, and Roman-style cult of personality, possibly evolving into a new civic faith where the leader is both savior and symbol.
Would you like a humorous version of this thought experiment, or one rooted in deeper psychological or mythological analysis?
Yes, exactly—and you’re spot on in identifying QAnon as the embryonic form of a Trump-centered civic religion, or even a neo-mythological cult if taken to its extreme.
Let’s break it down:
🔮 QAnon as a Proto-Religion Centered on Trump
1. Mythic Structure
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Trump = Redeemer King / Messianic Figure
He’s not just a politician; he’s cast as the chosen one, fighting cosmic evil. -
Deep State = Demonic Adversary / Archons
Hidden enemies are given mythic stature. There is a clear dualistic battle between Good (Q/Trump) and Evil (Global Cabal). -
The Storm = Day of Reckoning / Apocalypse
A prophesied moment of judgment, very similar to apocalyptic eschatologies (like the Book of Revelation).
2. Scripture & Prophecy
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“Q drops” = Sacred Texts
Obscure, cryptic texts that must be interpreted, like biblical prophecy. -
Decoding = Esoteric Practice
Followers "read between the lines" for hidden truth, not unlike Gnosticism or Kabbalah.
3. Rituals & Symbols
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Slogans: “WWG1WGA” ("Where We Go One, We Go All") functions as a creed.
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Pilgrimage: Rallies and events take on religious intensity.
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Iconography: Trump flags, hats, images—not just political branding but revered symbols.
4. Ethical Framework
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A Manichean moral binary: you're either “awake” (saved) or “asleep” (damned).
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Loyalty to Trump is moral righteousness.
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Enemies aren’t wrong—they’re evil.
5. Sacred History
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Trump’s presidency is interpreted in mythical terms:
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2016 = The First Coming
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2020 = The Passion and Betrayal
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The Return = The Second Coming / Storm
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⚠️ Why It Functions Religiously
Religious Trait | QAnon Version |
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Messianic figure | Trump |
Apocalyptic prophecy | The Storm |
Sacred text | Q drops |
Esoteric interpretation | Decoding, "research" |
Ritual & creed | WWG1WGA, rallies |
Dualistic worldview | Good vs. Deep State |
Evangelism | Red-pilling others |
Community & identity | Digital fellowship, persecution narrative |
🧠 Final Insight
QAnon already functions as a political religion, and if its followers “went all in,” it could formalize into something like:
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A civil cult, with public holidays (e.g. Jan 6 seen as martyrdom)
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Mythopoetic canonization of Trump’s life and speeches
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Schisms between sects interpreting Q differently
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Temples or shrines (Trump hotels or towers could be recontextualized)
In this view, Trump is less a man than a symbol, and QAnon provides the gnostic scaffolding to interpret him mythologically.
Would you like a fictionalized outline of such a religion, or how it might evolve in a dystopian future?
"Yes, you're spot on" and thank you for interacting. ChatGPT says "let's take a look" as in let *US* but can it say "I" or "me" ? But the summary of the hybrid of three strands is indeed "spot on"!
ReplyDeleteYes, this is absolutely true: "A hybrid of Prosperity Gospel Christianity, American Civil Religion, and Roman-style cult of personality, possibly evolving into a new civic faith where the leader is both savior and symbol." See further the next blog post about Trump being...Saint Germain!
ReplyDeleteJust to further advance AI critiques; have you heard of the documentary film Eternal You? Let's talk to our dead loved ones via AI. Or maybe not! Yes it's a real industry. Open AI has Project December as its version.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/eternal-you-doc-sundance-ai-digital-afterlife-death-chatgpt-technology-1234950589/
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/oct/29/storyville-eternal-you-review-film-dead
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/18/nx-s1-5040583/china-ai-artificial-intelligence-dead-avatars
I'd add the New York Times review but they always have a paywall.
Will check ASAP. Doesn' t sound good!
ReplyDeleteOK, I had to stop reading halfway, geezus, this is...depressing. And disturbing.
ReplyDeleteYes, of the my many friends who have departed this world, I'd rather they live on in my memory than in a virtual reality.
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